Insider Notebook: Margarito vs. Mosley is Getting Close

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  • Silencers
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    #11
    Originally posted by KJB
    Good post.
    Mosley is obviously the bigger fight for Margarito. At this point, both opponents are dangerous, but Margarito will be a solid favorite against either and I would be surprised to see him lose. Might as well take the bigger fight.
    Vazquez and Marquez need to move on. Vazquez is finally getting recognized as a great fighter, the best move for him at this point is to establish dominance in his weight class, or move up to FW. Marquez probably wont win a fourth fight, I wouldnt mind seeing what else he can do with his career.
    Chavez Jr. against Angulo would be a lot of fun to watch, but we all know Angulo would probably be waaaaaay too much.
    Margarito would definitely be the favorite against Mosley but I won't count Mosley out, even though he's showing some signs of age, I think he would be able to give Margarito some problems.

    I'm not sure if Vazquez will ever achieve dominance in the division unless he beats Marquez again, quite a few people had Marquez winning their third fight, the question mark will always be there. I would pick Vazquez to win the fourth fight though and it would be a war like their first 3.

    I agree about Angulo and JCC Jr., Angulo just has too much of everything for Jr. at this point.

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    • KJB
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      #12
      Originally posted by Silencers
      Margarito would definitely be the favorite against Mosley but I won't count Mosley out, even though he's showing some signs of age, I think he would be able to give Margarito some problems.

      I'm not sure if Vazquez will ever achieve dominance in the division unless he beats Marquez again, quite a few people had Marquez winning their third fight, the question mark will always be there. I would pick Vazquez to win the fourth fight though and it would be a war like their first 3.

      I agree about Angulo and JCC Jr., Angulo just has too much of everything for Jr. at this point.
      Not saying I would count Mosley out exactly, but damn that would be a hell of an accomplishment at this point. He looked like he had lost a little bit of his old self against Cotto, against Mayorga he looked like he had slid quite a bit. I think Mosley makes it the distance, and probably lands a couple of big bombs, but Margarito's aggressive workrate would win him the fight, Mosley aint gonna get a KO.
      I could see how some people feel that way, I never really questioned the decision. It was an insane war, but every time I see Vazquez winning, he simply has Marquez's number.
      Chavez Jr really wont be stepping it up to that level, not right now. They are gonna keep moving him along slowly, each little step hoping he can make it. Who knows, he might actually get there some day, he is young. But yeah they wont risk it against an animal like Alfredo.

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      • El Chicano
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        #13
        Jin will ****block this fight. I hope it happens though, but I don't think she thinks it's a smart move. Marg will stop Shane at this point.

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        • Silencers
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          #14
          Originally posted by KJB
          Not saying I would count Mosley out exactly, but damn that would be a hell of an accomplishment at this point. He looked like he had lost a little bit of his old self against Cotto, against Mayorga he looked like he had slid quite a bit. I think Mosley makes it the distance, and probably lands a couple of big bombs, but Margarito's aggressive workrate would win him the fight, Mosley aint gonna get a KO.
          I could see how some people feel that way, I never really questioned the decision. It was an insane war, but every time I see Vazquez winning, he simply has Marquez's number.
          Chavez Jr really wont be stepping it up to that level, not right now. They are gonna keep moving him along slowly, each little step hoping he can make it. Who knows, he might actually get there some day, he is young. But yeah they wont risk it against an animal like Alfredo.
          It would be a very big accomplishment at this point in his career, I'm still not sure if he has slipped that far though because Mayorga's tactics would have frustrated a lot of fighters that night and ring rust could have been a factor, it was his longest layoff in his career so it's hard to say if he has actually slipped that far, I can't see Mosley knocking Margarito out either but if Margarito starts slow again, we could see a pretty close fights on the cards.

          Marquez hurt Vazquez in their last fight, it was probably the first time in their 3 fights where Vazquez was seriously hurt, that could give Marquez some extra confidence in a fourth fight, I would still pick Vazquez though.

          Chavez Jr. needs a lot more steps IMO, I haven't been impressed with him from the first time I saw him, but you're right, he's pretty much still a baby in the sport and he had no amateur experience so maybe he can make it to the top but it'll be a long road for him. I agree, I doubt Trampler would make Chavez Jr. step up so soon.

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          • Motofan
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            #15
            Mosely...seriously man. You dont need a fight like Margarito at your age. I am not excited to see that fight at all.

            I also dont want to see a 4th Vazquez v Marquez fight. Marquez is too little to hurt him without having to out fight the **** out of him, and Vazquez can hurt him with every punch. Plus we know who wins this fight already. It's happened 3 times already.

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            • marc8989
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              #16
              Angulo would ko Chavez jr...That would be a good fight though...I just don't think chavez jr chin has been tested and Angulo has a chin of steel and good power...

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              • MafiosA
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                #17
                why u guys countin out sugar shane....
                didnt u guys watch hopkins, pavlik
                if one future hall of famer can do it so can another
                not sayin margs isnt the hoy fav...but have a lil faith in mosley
                ..i dont see him being stopped either....

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                • djsygo
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                  #18
                  Mosley is in trouble

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                  • sportsplato
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                    #19
                    Lot of info in this one. Vazquez vs Marquez is cool as long as both make at least 1 mill. The winner should then fight JuanMa LATE next year; give the winner time to rest and heal and enjoy life after getting beat-up in a victory.

                    Shane has to take this fight because it may be his last shot at the top. Margs is the most highly-regarded WW and you just can't turn that down at his age. Either that or sign to fight Pwill next year, but he stands a better chance with Margs.

                    Haven't seen Mijares, so no pick on him and Vic's fight.

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                    • Brassangel
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                      #20
                      Mosley would be able to beat Margarito to the punch like Cotto did, and he would clinch following the exchange (unlike Cotto). It would make things difficult for Margarito to keep his usual workrate. However, I expect Shane to fade a little in the mid rounds, and that's when Tony can get to him. If Mosley makes it to the end, he'll probably try to close impressively and win the judges.

                      It will be an interesting fight.

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