23 reasons why Calzaghe isn't an ALL TIME GREAT

[JoartCC]

Facts are facts.

You are a 5'2. And call professional fighters and people online cowards behind the safety of your keyboard in mommy's basement. Fact.

Keep talking about yourself kid.

Dont worry I symphatize with gayweather lovers who are rejects of society...

Here's a coin for your trouble.

[JoartCC]

no i think you're the one infatuated with floyd..you have 0 boxing knowlege and keep floyds name in your mouth more than a 2 dollar hooker keeps cum in her mouth..you are a discrace to this forum and should be banned for trolling

As I've said....

You love cowards... There's no denying that.

I prefer dignified champs who fight other elites.

It's a difference of opinion really and Im not trying to convince you noob. Im just using your own idiocy against you.

Some people like me were brought up by my parents to admire courage.

Some people like you unfortunately were brought up by your ignorant breeders to admire cowards.

Let's leave it at that for now.

[bsrizpac]

Keep talking about yourself kid.

Dont worry I symphatize with gayweather lovers who are rejects of society...

Here's a coin for your trouble.

Let's say you're a commander of the HUMAN faction during the time of the LOTR.

Assemble an army which you think could defeat the forces of Mordor and its allies.

And specify the composition.

Nuff said... I'm a bookwork in my spare time.

Seriously, are you calling anyone ELSE a loser? HAHAHHAA.

Dude we've all seen your picture. You are horrifying looking. No wonder you don't get out much.

[Chase8400]

Tarver - Weight drained
Pavlik - Blown up Middleweight
Winky - See above.

As I said, you can disect prety much any great fighters resume and twist it to make them sound ****ty.

* I am a Hopkins fan, and consider him an ATG, I am just proving a point here.

Disect Manny Pacquiao's resume'. LOL, jk. I got the point.

[Chase8400]

70%+ ko rate and he punches like a girl...

You sir, are ******.

Joe has never KO'd a prime example of a good opponent. Hell a no name fighter almost Ko'd Lacy in his last fight. Joe did'nt somehow make his chin weaker did he?

Just an observation. Unless you call a premature stoppage against Manfredo a prime example. LOL

[Allucard]

Dissecting Joe's Great 23

1. WBO title challenge - Chris Eubank , who had twice been beaten by Steve Collins , and was badly weight drained . UD 12
2. Branko Sobot - he came into the fight with a record of 14-1 , he had beaten nobody - was a very poor fighter and none puncher , is now 19-11.
3. Juan Gimenez - had already bean beaten byEubank , Nigel Benn and Roberto Duran , was a poor opponent with no chance of winning.
4.Robin Reid , this was a very close fight , many felt Reid was robbed ,Calzaghe didn't help his cause by telling us he would ko Reid as "he cant take my power " jibe was ranted. Reid had lost his title to an ancient Thulane Malinga prior to fighting Calzaghe. - SD12.
5. Rick Thornberry ,KOED by Henry Wharton prior to this fight , he earned the shot at Calzaghe by beating 3 fighters with records as follows 1-0
8-23-5 , 5-26-1 . a disgraceful choice of opponent. UD12.
6. David Starie , who had been previously stopped in a British title fight by Dean Francis ,done nothing to earn title fight. - UD12 was a sleeper.
7. Omar Sheika had lost prior to the title shot to Tony Booth 28 -44-7 ,
but he had at least beaten Glen Johnson to earn shot. TKO5.
8. Richie Woodhall ,lost to Keith Holmes , had lost his title to Marcus Byer , and earned title shot by beating former welterweight Errol Mcdonald. TKO 10.
9. Mario Veit , undefeated but untested , brushed aside with ease . two fights before his title shot had beaten one Errol Mcdonald . TKO1.
10. Will Mcintrye , this undeserving challenger had lost to Dana Rosenblatt , and earned his shot by beating Jessie Marsh 9-3-1 . and Charles Daughtry 9-25-2 , this is a joke fighter. TKO 4.
11. Charles Brewer , this hot and cold fighter was always erratic , had lost prior on two occasions to Sven Ottke , and had be KOED by Antwan Echols, Lonnie Beasley etc. UD12.
12. Miguel Jimenez , this guy had beaten nobody to earn shot , lost to Brian Magee in his next fight also. UD12.
13. Tocker Pudwill , well this guy has to be the worst of the bunch , had lost prior to Sven Ottke , sound familiar ? he earned his shot at Calzaghe by beating the following , Enrico Ramirez 5-12-1 , Donnie Pendleton 13 -139-4 ,Larry Kenney 9-32-2 , Kwan Manassah 6-16-2. now i may not like Warren or Calzaghe but this fight was a joke.TKO2.
14. Byron Mitchell , this guy at least had a good punch as he showed by flooring Calzaghe , but had lost his prior fight to Sven Ottke , sound familiar ? exciting fight anyhow. TKO 2.
15. Mger Mkratchian , this guy had earned his shot by beating a guy with a record of 2-31 , another poor fighter. TKO 7.
16. Kabary Salem , this guy had lost his prior fight to Mario Veit , after the Calzaghe fight he was KOED by Luciano Bute. UD12.
17. Mario Veit , Veit did do better than the first fight , but still was outgunned. TKO6.
18. Evans Ashira, this guy was pretty limited , he had been KOED two fights earlier by Maselino Masoe , but lasted the distance . UD12.
19. Jeff Lacy , Lacy had looked a beast against Robin Reid , he entered the right with21 wins 17 KO'S , was over hyped , Calzaghe put his finest performance so far , handing Lacy his ass. For the record Jeff Lacy hasn't scored a KO since the Calzaghe fight. UD12.
20. Peter Manfredo JR , happy to be here Manfredo was light years from being world class , he also looked a division to small. Another poor fighter. TKO3.
21. Sakio Bika , another limited fighter , fought dirty and lost widely. UD12.
22.Mikkel Kessler , undefeated and by far the most complete fighter Calzaghe had fought so far , an excellent performance , his finest for me,
Kessler has gone on to regain a title at SM. UD12.
23. Fought a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins , was floored in the first , fight was close , Hopkins didnt fight with any urgency . Another good performance .Hopkins has gone on to beat Kelly Pavlik .SD 12.

This is how you build a ATG fighter. They tried BUT FAILED. The truth is known. Too many decent candidates to a ATG place have lost their rightful spot to people like Calzaghe, it HAS TO STOP. I wish boxing was a sport again. Looking at this one can't help but feel cheated, even if you are a fan! I mean damn! It's like you qualifying for the Olympic finals but outrunning handicapped people and then run the finals against the legit but tired competition and claim to be a true Olympic champion. MY ASS YOU WILL! This dude will be forgotten in the history of boxing as Sven Ottke was.

[hammerhiem]

Joe has never KO'd a prime example of a good opponent.

Neither has Winkey wright or Jemaine Taylor I could go on...

[bsrizpac]

Neither has Winkey wright or Jemaine Taylor I could go on...

No one has them listed as ALL TIME GREATS.

But keep the nuthugging up.

[hammerhiem]

No one has them listed as ALL TIME GREATS.

I don't list Calzaghe as an all time great so whats your point?

[Chase8400]

Neither has Winkey wright or Jemaine Taylor I could go on...

Yea, but their KO ratio tells no lies either, lol. I could go on for a while too.