Is Roy Jones Jr, The greatest of his generation????

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #11
    In terms of sheer talent - yes.

    In terms of resume - no.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #12
      Hopkins or Roy. Take your pick. They've beaten the most names, have themost respectable dossiers.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        In terms of sheer talent - yes.

        In terms of resume - no.
        Agreed......

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          #14
          The real question is, whose resume is greater?

          The only persons close are Hopkins and Pacquiao it's debatable.

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            #15
            roy jones is the goat!!!
            in terms of skill at least.

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              #16
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              The real question is, whose resume is greater?

              The only persons close are Hopkins and Pacquiao it's debatable.
              If its top level opponents faced , then Oscar takes it.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Lazy Liberal
                If its top level opponents faced , then Oscar takes it.
                If it's top level opponents BEAT, then Oscar isn't in the discussion.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  If it's top level opponents BEAT, then Oscar isn't in the discussion.
                  Ruelas,Gonzalez,Chavez,Whitaker,Quartey,Vargas dont count??? He beat Tito and Mosley in the rematch but got stiffed on the decision, so i respectfully disagree.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Lazy Liberal
                    If its top level opponents faced , then Oscar takes it.
                    Super Zab would come close too

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Lazy Liberal
                      Ruelas,Gonzalez,Chavez,Whitaker,Quartey,Vargas dont count??? He beat Tito and Mosley in the rematch but got stiffed on the decision, so i respectfully disagree.
                      You just threw a bunch of names out there. I mean, seriously, a little context helps. Throw Pacquiao in there too and in ten years that'll look wonderful.

                      Ruelas wasn't the best fighter in his division.

                      Neither was Gonzalez.

                      Chavez? Please.

                      Whitaker? Funny how you claim he beat Tito and Mosley but throw in Whitaker like a clear-cut win. I bet you think it is.

                      Quartey is arguably his best win.

                      Vargas? Vargas? Vargas's stock considerably when, in his bout following Tito, he was rocked and dropped by the old, light-hitting Wilfredo Rivera. Then stunned by that sparring partner.

                      It's been said before but needs to be said again - there's a reason why The Ring magazine had Tito ahead of Oscar in their top 80 rankings that came out around 2002. Funny how things change.

                      Really if this is the best you have then I stand by what I said, he doesn't belong in that conversation.

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