Warren Say Joe Calzaghe Should Have Fought Pavlik

[hammerhiem]

Jeff Lacy. 20 pro fights all built on hype, not one good name on his record.

Lacy was only "all hype" after Joe beat him

Then Kessler. 40+ fights. He beat Siaca and Beyer for his titles. Who?

Kessler had only fought Bums AFTER Joe beat him

Add Hopkins was shot and would have beat him in his prime AFTER joe beat him and then all of a sudden is the next coming of Ali after he beats Pavlik.

Christ I don't even Like Calzaghe, but I am prepared to admit he was streets ahead of anyone in his division and has beat a great fighter in Hopkins at or near the peak of his powers in Hopkins backyard with Hopkins judges.

[hammerhiem]

No, don't lie and talk horse-****.

Funny, I was quoting Glen johnson...

********** just spoke with former world light heavyweight champion Glen Johnson, who has been proposed as the opponent for Joe Calzaghe when the reigning world super middleweight champion makes his HBO decut in July. According to Johnson, the neogtiations have reached an impasse over the issue of the contracted weight limit for the fight.Johnson informed ********** that although Calzaghe had offered Johnson a fight, the offer was unacceptable because Johnson would have had to come down in weight too much to take the offer seriously.

[egodfather]

No, that obstacle must have been overcome if it's true because the tickets were printed and sold.

There's nothing special about Calzaghe. He made 21 defenses, reached 44-0 and remained undefeated in 10 years. It sounds good but Dariusz Michalczewski made 23 defenses, remained undefeated in something like 15 years and reached 48-0 and he was average.

Joe got a SD over Hopkins. So did Taylor. Twice. Years ago. And a UD.

[Porter's Dad]

Joe has a point, Manfredo was a star hence his reason for fighting him

And the Calzaghe fanboy freakshow plumbs new depths.

[hammerhiem]

There's nothing special about Calzaghe. He made 21 defenses, reached 44-0 and remained undefeated in 10 years.

No there nothing special about being the best in your division for 10 years...

Even in a poor division 10 years unbeaten is something to be proud of and should be recognised a feat. The fact is the the only SMW of note that Calzaghe didn't fight in those 10 years was Ottke.

It doesn't matter how weak the division is to go 10 years unbeaten takes talent and only a hater or idiot would deny that.

[S A M U R A I]

Calzaghe has publicly stated he didn't want to fight Manfredo, and he had no drive at all for that fight. He did it for the name exposure in America and the money, that's all. **** fight, but worth it for the cash.



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[hammerhiem]

Question for Egodfather: Who would Joe have to fight and beat for you to say he is a top 10 P4P?

[egodfather]

No there nothing special about being the best in your division for 10 years...

Even in a poor division 10 years unbeaten is something to be proud of and should be recognised a feat. The fact is the the only SMW of note that Calzaghe didn't fight in those 10 years was Ottke.

It doesn't matter how weak the division is to go 10 years unbeaten takes talent and only a hater or idiot would deny that.

Jesus, what is the world coming to. This is why boxing isn't what it used to be.

Ok, Even in a poor division 10 years unbeaten is something to be proud of and should be recognised a feat. So Joe and the boxing would should give a shout-out for some of his defenses like:

Branko Sobot
Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra
Rick Thornberry
David Starie
Mario Veit x2
Will McIntyre
Miguel Angel Jimenez
Tocker Pudwill
Mger Mkrtchian
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Sakio Bika
Peter Manfredo Jr

Yeah, Joe makes me proud to be a boxing fan.

Man, I'm going bed. What is the world coming to. I'm not racist - I'm Hispanic - but you should read 'The Great White Hype' by Bert Sugar.

[egodfather]

No there nothing special about being the best in your division for 10 years...

Even in a poor division 10 years unbeaten is something to be proud of and should be recognised a feat. The fact is the the only SMW of note that Calzaghe didn't fight in those 10 years was Ottke.

It doesn't matter how weak the division is to go 10 years unbeaten takes talent and only a hater or idiot would deny that.

Jesus, what is the world coming to. This is why boxing isn't what it used to be.

Ok, Even in a poor division 10 years unbeaten is something to be proud of and should be recognised a feat. So the boxing world should give a shout-out for some of his defenses like:

Branko Sobot
Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra
Rick Thornberry
David Starie
Mario Veit x2
Will McIntyre
Miguel Angel Jimenez
Tocker Pudwill
Mger Mkrtchian
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Sakio Bika
Peter Manfredo Jr

Yeah, Joe makes me proud to be a boxing fan.

Man, I'm going bed. What is the world coming to. I'm not racist - I'm Hispanic - but you should read 'The Great White Hype' by Bert Sugar.

It's too late for Joe. He missed the boat. Tarver is 40. Roy is 40. Bernard is 45. Winky is hitting his 40s. Joe didn't want Taylor. Joe ducked Pavlik for a "money fight with Roy" but the tickets still haven't sold out and they went on sale in August. Some money fight. More like easy fight. Joe really is a joke. He had a very close fight with Hopkins but refuses a rematch. Can you imaging if Mayweather did that with Castillo or Pacquiao with Marquez.

[hammerhiem]

So Joe and the boxing would should give a shout-out for some of his defenses like:

Branko Sobot
Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra
Rick Thornberry
David Starie
Mario Veit x2
Will McIntyre
Miguel Angel Jimenez
Tocker Pudwill
Mger Mkrtchian
Kabary Salem
Evans Ashira
Sakio Bika
Peter Manfredo Jr

You mean like Hopkins vs

Roy Richie
Wendell Hall
Melvin Winn
Lupe Aquilo
Segundo Mercado x2
Steve Frank
Joe Lipsey
William Bo James
John David Jackson