Yeah, I'm just beyond trying to deal with these tools who won't accept that Joe most probably wouldn't have beaten every fighter in history prime for prime.
Joe will get into the hall of fame on his title defense record alone, but he's not making the coveted "All Time Greats" list. Anyone who thinks he is is diluting themselves.
Hopkins is certainly already on that list, and seems to be moving up some spots as well.
well the vast majority of ppl who do say JC would lose havent seen him in his prime. In fact id argue that most people haven't in fact.
i dont care how crisp his counters were back then imo he cant compete in a come forward brawl against JC. the guy has good power but imo its not KO power, the last time he Ko'ed someone was a welterweight (DLH)!!
by sying hes a wrecking machine you make him out to be a geoge foreman!!!
Oscar fought at 154 for the longest now...I don't count him as a welterweight.
Looking back at Calzaghe-Hopkins and then analyzing their prime years, anybody can see that neither guy was on form. I mean, at this point in time, both guys have basically become exaggerated versions of their worst habits in the ring. Hopkins used to be a roughhouser who broke you down. Against Calzaghe he was simply a roughhousing punk looking for an easy way out. Calzaghe used to be a fast, smart boxer with some punch. Against Hopkins he sacrificed literally all of his punch to slap B-Hop and just score points. It's like he's settled on just winning it in a modern Olympics style.
Anyway, I'm saying this to point out that it's not just B-Hop that we have to plug in to the equation, in terms of how he would fare with Joe. Calzaghe was much better in his prime too.. Cuz believe me, he's about 2 years away from his prime right now. I do think B-Hop would take him though. Had it been 2001 and 'Nard (yeah Bringer, 'NARD) had Joe on his ass in the 1st, he wouldn't have let him off the hook like that. ****, it almost seemed like the B-Hop that fought Pavlik wouldn't have let Joe off the hook like that.
Glad to see you using it as well, I coined the term 'Nard and now it's spread like wildfire. I love it. Just goes to show you the type of power I possess behind this keyboard.
Glad to see you using it as well, I coined the term 'Nard and now it's spread like wildfire. I love it. Just goes to show you the type of power I possess behind this keyboard.
I can't even hate on the fact that you can't detect sarcasm, not with that amazing avatar comparing Lesnar to "Butterball" from the "Hellraiser" series.
I can't even hate on the fact that you can't detect sarcasm, not with that amazing avatar comparing Lesnar to "Butterball" from the "Hellraiser" series.
You should know not to underestimate the level of ******ity you can encounter on these boards.
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