is Calzaghe a better fighter than B Hop or not

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #1

    is Calzaghe a better fighter than B Hop or not

    is Calzaghe a better fighter than B Hop or not ?Joe holds a very contentious win over a 43 year old Hopkins but who on the whole is the better fighter taking in totality of thier careers etc

    i got Hopkins
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    #2
    Better fighter how? Stylistically? Or in terms of achievement?

    I personally don't think he's anywhere near Hopkins in either category, but the first one is a mere matter of personal opinion, admittedly.

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      #3
      Not even close. You should be shot for making this thread.

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        #4
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        Better fighter how? Stylistically? Or in terms of achievement?

        I personally don't think he's anywhere near Hopkins in either category, but the first one is a mere matter of personal opinion, admittedly.
        achievement

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        • larryx
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          #5
          better all around fighter...hell no not even close..just caught him at the right time and still got a sd

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            #6
            Originally posted by Terrible...
            achievement
            acheivment wise...hell no.how many people do you recongnize on joes resume???

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mizzou
              Not even close. You should be shot for making this thread.


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              • Jumpman23
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                HELL NO... only reason why he one the fight against Hopkins was cos Hopkins tired out half way through...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  achievement
                  Well then the edge goes to Bernard if you're being logical.

                  Trinidad > Lacy
                  Kessler > De La Hoya (Oscar was legitimately blown up.)
                  Tarver > Bika
                  Wright > Manfredo
                  Pavlik > Ashira

                  I'm not sure about Eubank and Johnson. Joe has an impressive night that night, and Hopkins stopped Johnson, and I still don't know how he did it.

                  Very similar title defense record though, both inherited a lackluster division.

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                    Well...he won, so technically speaking, you pretty much have to consider him the "better" fighter, at least on that night. There are alot of things Hopkins is good at, but beating Calzaghe wasn't one of them. It was fairly obvious that Hopkins knew if he engaged Calzaghe he wouldn't win, which is why he chose the method he did, and it was probably his best chance at beating someone with Joe's work rate and handspeed...it just didn't work as well as he'd hoped. If HOpkins had hopened up more so he could land more shots, he'd have caught more as well, and I think it would've been a wider decision without any question.

                    Yeah, I know, Hopkins gave Pavlik a boxing lesson, but on top of being so stylistically different, Calzaghe would've done about the same thing to Pavlik that Hopkins did...has already, in fact...and yeah, I also know that none of the Zaggs haters here like to hear the name "Kessler", but Kessler is a much more complete technical boxer than Pavlik, and was handled by Calzaghe in about the same manner, though I have to say that I did actually give Kessler a couple of rounds, but again...he's more complete, technically, than Pavlik, so that's not so surprising. If you guys want to see how much better Kessler is than Pavlik, petition for a Kessler/Hopkins matchup in January.

                    I think that if Hopkins were able to keep up with Calzaghe's work rate, it'd be a great fight, and I just don't know how it'd go, honestly. It wouldn't be a blowout either way, I don't believe, but I'm also not convinced it would go either way for certain. I could flip a coin and take a guess, but why bother.

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