Poll: Hamed Likely Won't Make it into the IBHoF in 2009

[Duke McKenzie_]

Our Nazzi deserves to be in there, he's a wikkid fighter, innit?

Bring that lickle Mexican over to Sheffield and I'll knock him spark arrrrt, innit? I'm wikkid, man.

[IwatchBoxing]

Between Gatti and Hamed, Hamed deserves to be in the Hall of FAme, and his talenet should not go untnoitced even if he retired far too soon over nuthing, over Barrera.

[Scott9945]

Barrera retired Hamed. It's amusing how his supporters point to the fact of only a single defeat when that shouldn't be the reasoning behind the decision at all. He did not have the heart to come back from defeat and try to regain his lost stature. He instead simply dropped out of the sport after failing his most critical test. If he had remained and succeeded to some extent, he would probably be a viable candidate. As it stands, he should not be inducted.

That logic absolutely sucks. First of all, Hamed didn't retire after the Barrera fight. He fought once more, wasn't satisfied with his performance, and then retired. He had already won multiple world titles and was a multimillionaire. You can't penalize a boxer for making an intelligent decision. Michael Spinks retired after a single defeat. Do you think that should stop him from being in the HOF?

[WhoreUs]

Barrera retired Hamed. It's amusing how his supporters point to the fact of only a single defeat when that shouldn't be the reasoning behind the decision at all. He did not have the heart to come back from defeat and try to regain his lost stature. He instead simply dropped out of the sport after failing his most critical test. If he had remained and succeeded to some extent, he would probably be a viable candidate. As it stands, he should not be inducted.

he didn't retire immediately after the loss.

he fought a fight after that.

he won the fight but you can tell he wasn't the same hamed anymore.

hamed was losing it before the barrera fight.

hamed quit not because he lost.

he quit because he was on the downside of his career and didn't have it anymore.

wtf would staying on to fight some more accomplish anyway? anyone here think he would've beat marco in the rematch? then what's the point?

[IMDAZED]

Between Gatti and Hamed, Hamed deserves to be in the Hall of FAme, and his talenet should not go untnoitced even if he retired far too soon over nuthing, over Barrera.

Let me know when Gatti gets voted in.

When people put down Gatti, they'll start talking about who he beat, how he lost, etc. Not for Hamed. They'll just reel off Hamed's "accomplishments" (how many titles he could pick up without defending them). Ironically, you can do the same for Gatti from 130-140.

[Iamnotausername]

Yes, he was the big guy because he brought in the most money. Is that why he should go to the Hall?

Yes, people have gotten in for less undeservedly. Is that why he should go to the Hall?

I'm not a fan of claiming someone is great because they picked up belts. That means little in today's sport. As I said yesterday, William Joppy is multi-time champ, doesn't mean he should get in. It's about who you beat and when you beat them. Ultimately, Hamed falls short.

Of course he should go in for them reasons, most fighters who are in there because they were a draw or picked up a lot of belts. HOF is not a omnipotent unbiased pantheon for champions. politics is as much a part of it

Maybe he wouldnt go in your personal HOF, but the criteria for HOF is set and Naz ultimately fulfills everything, neded to go in there. He deserves to be remembered much more than a lot of fighters. and he definitly deserves to be in there for pretty much single handedly making people give a **** about the low weights.

[IwatchBoxing]

Let me know when Gatti gets voted in.

When people put down Gatti, they'll start talking about who he beat, how he lost, etc. Not for Hamed. They'll just reel off Hamed's "accomplishments" (how many titles he could pick up without defending them). Ironically, you can do the same for Gatti from 130-140.

I unstand the hall of fame should be an exculisive club to be in

[larryx]

Arturo Gatti The Human Punching Bag Will Get In No Problem Watch..but Nassim Hamed..no No He Wont Get In Man Please..he Had More Titles Than Gatte,better Fighter,better Record..just Wrong Nationality At The Wrong Time,,,damn You Bin Laden

[IMDAZED]

Of course he should go in for them reasons, most fighters who are in there because they were a draw or picked up a lot of belts. HOF is not a omnipotent unbiased pantheon for champions. politics is as much a part of it

Maybe he wouldnt go in your personal HOF, but the criteria for HOF is set and Naz ultimately fulfills everything, neded to go in there. He deserves to be remembered much more than a lot of fighters. and he definitly deserves to be in there for pretty much single handedly making people give a **** about the low weights.

Right because before Hamed, no one cared about featherweights. This is the Hall of Fame, not a popularity contest.

And since when do YOU know what the criteria for the HOF is? And since when do you know that he qualifies for it?

I've sat through pages and pages and I've yet to see anyone tell me these guys who Hamed beat that warrants HOF mention. All I hear is how many titles he won - most of them paper. Is that what qualifies for the Hall, because a couple guys sneaked in that way? We should sneak Hamed in too? Or is for popularity? If yes to either then I'm all for it too.

[Miburo]

That logic absolutely sucks. First of all, Hamed didn't retire after the Barrera fight. He fought once more, wasn't satisfied with his performance, and then retired. He had already won multiple world titles and was a multimillionaire. You can't penalize a boxer for making an intelligent decision. Michael Spinks retired after a single defeat. Do you think that should stop him from being in the HOF?

Glad you think so. Now to expose your bad logic: false analogy. Michael Spinks had nothing left to prove, and his lone loss was a comeback fight well past his prime to earn a paycheck and above his best weight class. Hamed was full of hubris and had his heart taken from him when younger, better blood entered the division than the competition he had previously faced.

I hope you're kidding about the return fight, which was garbage. After the Barrera fight he claimed he was forcing a rematch along with all his usual talk. He lost all confidence in himself and unlike a great fighter, could not overcome that devastation. In fact his hubris was so great and his desire to control every aspect of his superstar lifestyle that he allowed his boxing skills to slip long before that first loss, firing his original trainer and basically doing whatever he wanted. There was a bit of luck involved with his power coming through for him in some desperate situations in his later fights when he felt he was so good he could be lackadaisical in regards to training, feeling his opponent would inevitably be knocked out regardless of any deficit on the cards. Great fighters know that you have to be able to win on points at the top level.

Hamed was more interested at the end in being famous than being a hall of fame fighter - he felt he was simply owed the latter as a matter of course.