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  • ßringer
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    Name another over 40 fighter who could do what Hopkins did last Saturday

    Name another over 40 fighter who could do what Hopkins did to Pavlik last Saturday, or an opponet like Pavlik. An undefeated KO artist, reigning Middleweight Champion, 17 years his Junior.

    One of the key matches that comes to mind is Foreman/Moorer, but honestly, there's no comparison in terms of skill.

    George Foreman was losing every round of that fight against Moorer, had it not been for the 1 punch that knocked Moorer out, he would've lost a shutout on the cards.

    On the other hand you've got a 43 year old Hopkins, facing Pavlik. Now I'll admit that Pavlik is a flawed fighter, and certainly not in the same league as Hopkins as far as technical talent goes.

    But he does have a 17 year age advantage, a significant power advantage, a stamina advantage, and a small height advantage.

    And Hopkins pitched a near pefect shutout. (I gave Kelly 1 round.)

    Tell me anybody else who could do that, past, or present. Who else at over 40 years old could keep Kelly Pavlik limited to winning 1 round?
    Last edited by ßringer; 10-23-2008, 07:31 PM.
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    And this isn't an "I told you so thread", however I will admit I love when nearly everybody picks Hopkins to lose (including the experts) and they end up with egg on their face.

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      George Foreman would have had him out in one round

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        #4
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        Name another over 40 fighter who could do what Hopkins did to Pavlik last Saturday, or an opponet like Pavlik. An undefeated KO artist, reigning Middleweight Champion, 17 years his Junior.

        One of the key matches that comes to mind is Foreman/Moorer, but honestly, there's no comparison in terms of skill.

        George Foreman was losing every round of that fight against Moorer, had it not been for the 1 punch that knocked Moorer out, he would've lost a shutout on the cards.

        On the other hand you've got a 43 year old Hopkins, facing Pavlik. Now I'll admit that Pavlik is a flawed fighter, and certainly not in the same league as Hopkins as far as technical talent goes.

        But he does have a 17 year age advantage, a significant power advantage, a stamina advantage, and a small height advantage.

        And Hopkins pitched a near pefect shutout. (I gave Kelly 1 round.)

        Tell me anybody else who could do that, past, or present. Who else at over 40 year sold could keep Kelly Pavlik limited to winning 1 round?

        Nobody, past or present. It was an amazing performance, not just for his age. And I'm not even a Hopkins fan.

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          #5
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          Name another over 40 fighter who could do what Hopkins did to Pavlik last Saturday, or an opponet like Pavlik. An undefeated KO artist, reigning Middleweight Champion, 17 years his Junior.

          One of the key matches that comes to mind is Foreman/Moorer, but honestly, there's no comparison in terms of skill.

          George Foreman was losing every round of that fight against Moorer, had it not been for the 1 punch that knocked Moorer out, he would've lost a shutout on the cards.

          On the other hand you've got a 43 year old Hopkins, facing Pavlik. Now I'll admit that Pavlik is a flawed fighter, and certainly not in the same league as Hopkins as far as technical talent goes.

          But he does have a 17 year age advantage, a significant power advantage, a stamina advantage, and a small height advantage.

          And Hopkins pitched a near pefect shutout. (I gave Kelly 1 round.)

          Tell me anybody else who could do that, past, or present. Who else at over 40 years old could keep Kelly Pavlik limited to winning 1 round?
          Archie Moore may have been able to turn the same trick at the same age. Maybe.

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            #6
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            Archie Moore may have been able to turn the same trick at the same age. Maybe.
            Precisely.

            This isn't even about me being one of the few vocal Bernard fans out there. Hell I even told my girlfriend Saturday night that we were watching history in the making in that ring.

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              I still hope Hopkins gets hit by a bus one day for being a racist, an ******* and a dirty fighter.

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                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                Precisely.

                This isn't even about me being one of the few vocal Bernard fans out there. Hell I even told my girlfriend Saturday night that we were watching history in the making in that ring.
                I wasn't surprised Hop won (I picked Pavlik), I was surprised he dominated. The guy is a phenom, its as simple as that.

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                  Originally posted by Sin City
                  I still hope Hopkins gets hit by a bus one day for being a racist, an ******* and a dirty fighter.
                  He's not a racist. (He trusted Freddie Roach to be his head trainer in 2 of his biggest fights, Wright, and Tarver.)

                  He is an *******, but in the kind of way that one day you'll miss having in this sport.

                  And he didn't do anything remotely dirty against Pavlik, I didn't even see a headbutt, and that's saying something.

                  Admit it Vick, you're ass sore. I saw you predicting a Pavlik KO on here.

                  My only wish is that I was there in person to see the look on your face, after about the 5th round when you realized Kelly was completely outmatched.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    I wasn't surprised Hop won (I picked Pavlik), I was surprised he dominated. The guy is a phenom, its as simple as that.
                    Good to see some respect coming Bernard's way.

                    Honestly speaking, I give a lot of credit to Naazim Richardson for Bernard's performance. When Freddie Roach was in charge Hopkins just didn't have it, and it was frustrating because I knew he still had it. Naazim helps Hopkins find that edge.

                    At the end of the day it was Hopkins himself in that ring doing what he did, but I think having Naazim back in the corner helped him out mentally quite a bit.

                    Freddie Roach is a **** trainer. Other than Pacquiao and Vazquez he hasn't done much. He's a bandwagon'er like Steward.

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