Originally posted by jacobs
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Pacquiao vs Hamed?
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People always complain about his shoddy balance and style but none of you have looked into his style enough to know why he does these seemingly amateurish things.
His power came from his positioning, body movement and those legs of his. He did everything perfect for his style of fighting.
Oh yeah. I see it being a big punch up where Hamed gets knocked down but comes back to spark the other guy. I mean like eyes rolled to the back of the head sparked.
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Originally posted by The Gully Gad View PostThank u...
Green K for that for having sense
Hamed was the guy who got taken to school by Mab.
Pac is the guy who defeated legends and elites.
Only idiots will argue with excuses and whining.
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Far too many people allow Naz the Obnoxious Little **** to cloud their judgment of Naz the Fighter. I can almost understand why. After all, he was peerless at being the former. But let's try to be without prejudice for a moment and admit that he was one of the best ever to ever lace up a pair of gloves at FW.
There may have been a handful of fighters who punched as hard as him at that weight (who?), but I can't imagine it is humanly possible to hit harder. Couple this with the fact that he could hit you from impossible angles, which meant you were very often unprepared and thus in far greater danger. Hamed pretty much re-wrote the definition of hitting with evil intent.
Aged 25 his defensive reflexes were eye-popping. There were times when couldn’t give his opponent greater opportunity and he’d still get through the round without a finger being laid on him. Yes, he got caught with a few shots – but not as many as that video of defensive blunders doing the rounds on Youtube might suggest (given time, software and inclination I could make ANY ATG look like a bumbling amateur on Youtube). Naz’s problem was that because he threw punches from such weird angles he was always vulnerable to looking ****** when caught off balance on the counter. If you did manage to catch him you pretty much had to kill him because a) he was one of those fighters who responded to being hit by hitting you twice as hard and b) his chin was pure granite.
Naz’s list of accomplishments would be the envy of all but a few past, present and future champs. Only politics prevented him from cleaning out his division and securing all the belts. And he knew how to entertain the punters. There was no such thing as a bored spectator at a Naz fight (either you loved him or hated him – or simply wanted to appreciate his skills). How many fighters keep a crowd of 20,000 customers enthralled from start to finish today (or at any other time)?
His only defeat was at the hands of an unquestioned ATG. On that evening he was past his prime (mentally and physically) and lacking any commitment to the sport of boxing (other than its visible rewards). Whether, in optimal condition, he could have reversed that decision I don’t know. All I will say is he did himself no favours whatsoever.
Returning to the question – it’s a good one. Both fighters are/were freakishly powerful hitters. From what I’ve seen of both fighters (and I’ve seen a few more of Hamed’s fights than Pac’s) I’d say Naz is the bigger hitter, although I concede I could be wrong. Either way, we’re not talking by much. As for the posters claiming a win for Pac by KO, let me point out that of the two only Pac’s career shows defeat by KO. Granted, those losses were some time ago – but they remain. Now, I don’t know much about the guys that left Pac horizontal. But I do know they are unlikely to be harder hitters than Naz.
It’s an interesting thought experiment.
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On that evening he was past his prime (mentally and physically) and lacking any commitment to the sport of boxing (other than its visible rewards).
Only idiots will argue with excuses and whining.
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