King Feels Samuel Peter Can Bounce Back Strong

[keepthemhandsup]

the dude's only 6 foot.....i don't know what he doing being a HW anyway....he's fat...he'll lose the weight easy

[Davros?]

Sam Peter needs to work on how to get inside a long, fast jab. Both Klitschkos used the same strategy to defeat him.

We see too many boxers stand on the outside against those two and the Klitschkos, especially Wladimir more than Vitali, have a tough damaging jab that will rip a guy up if they stand at a distance. While a healthy Vitali could probably absorb a Peter barrage (If that powerful Lennox uppercut, that would have dropped any other heavy at the time, didn't put Vitali down in their fight, then only age will drop him), Wladimir showed he had trouble when Peter got inside and landed some clean head shots in the last rounds on their fight. However, we have never seen Peter reproduce the physical conditioning he had in that first Wlad fight. Perhaps a few less "yes men" around Peter and more focus on his cardio will improve him in the future. Time will tell. Who cares how much he weighs, it is the heavyweight division, but what does matter is the cardio shape he is in to last 12 rounds and keep his power throughout the fight, as he was able to do against Wladimir, even while taking a vicious beating from Wlad.

A lot of people are hard on Peter, but he has only lost twice - to the two best heavyweights in the division. Don't confuse the personality of Sam Peter with his loser loudmouth trash talking promoter who disrespects everyone. Focus on the boxer and what he does in the ring, not what all the "yes men" and his idiot promoter say when they hog the microphone at press conferences.

Its true that Peter has only lost twice, but most people say he lost to Toney first time round, and he was not very impressive against McCline or Oleg. The guy just doesn’t have the natural ability imo, maybe with a better trainer and more hard work he would have been better but its to late now. I also think he could be older than what he says.

[Davros?]

the dude's only 6 foot.....i don't know what he doing being a HW anyway....he's fat...he'll lose the weight easy

I don’t think there is anything wrong in being a 6ft heavyweight, its just he doesn’t have enough head movement or foot speed to get on the inside, If he did a lot of hard training and running I would not be surprised to see him lose 20-30lb.

[keepthemhandsup]

I don’t think there is anything wrong in being a 6ft heavyweight, its just he doesn’t have enough head movement or foot speed to get on the inside, If he did a lot of hard training and running I would not be surprised to see him lose 20-30lb.

there nothing really wrong with it...its just i don't think it's right for him to be in that division....but i aggre if he trained hard and i mean HARD he'll be good....

[Davros?]

there nothing really wrong with it...its just i don't think it's right for him to be in that division....but i aggre if he trained hard and i mean HARD he'll be good....

I sometimes wonder how much these fat heavyweight would weigh if they actually did a lot of road work, I think a lot of them would end up in the cruiserweight division. If Sam Peter lost all his i think he would be only about 200-215lb

[keepthemhandsup]

I sometimes wonder how much these fat heavyweight would weigh if they actually did a lot of road work, I think a lot of them would end up in the cruiserweight division. If Sam Peter lost all his i think he would be only about 200-215lb

that how it was back in the day when the HW actully worked out...but nowaday their to busy not running....i remember holyfeild fought rid**** bowe he was like 215 and was in great shape.....

[Davros?]

that how it was back in the day when the HW actully worked out...but nowaday their to busy not running....i remember holyfeild fought rid**** bowe he was like 215 and was in great shape.....

Yeah when Holyfield won the title from Douglas he weighed 208lb, when Holmes beat Norton he weighed 209lb, Liston was 213lb against Patterson, Norton was 210lb against Ali in there first fight. These are all big built guys who would weigh 240lb+ with the standard gut and man boobs that are compulsory in the current heavyweight division.

[Stickman]

Sam Peter needs to work on how to get inside a long, fast jab. Both Klitschkos used the same strategy to defeat him.

We see too many boxers stand on the outside against those two and the Klitschkos, especially Wladimir more than Vitali, have a tough damaging jab that will rip a guy up if they stand at a distance. While a healthy Vitali could probably absorb a Peter barrage (If that powerful Lennox uppercut, that would have dropped any other heavy at the time, didn't put Vitali down in their fight, then only age will drop him), Wladimir showed he had trouble when Peter got inside and landed some clean head shots in the last rounds on their fight. However, we have never seen Peter reproduce the physical conditioning he had in that first Wlad fight. Perhaps a few less "yes men" around Peter and more focus on his cardio will improve him in the future. Time will tell. Who cares how much he weighs, it is the heavyweight division, but what does matter is the cardio shape he is in to last 12 rounds and keep his power throughout the fight, as he was able to do against Wladimir, even while taking a vicious beating from Wlad.

A lot of people are hard on Peter, but he has only lost twice - to the two best heavyweights in the division. Don't confuse the personality of Sam Peter with his loser loudmouth trash talking promoter who disrespects everyone. Focus on the boxer and what he does in the ring, not what all the "yes men" and his idiot promoter say when they hog the microphone at press conferences.

That is exactly right. Tyson became such a superstar simply because he was a genius at getting inside without getting caught on the way in, had quick, accurate hands, and good power. If you'd taken away Tyson's almost savant-like ability to move inside in a flash, he'd never have been more than a gatekeeper. Even as he was, he had trouble with tall guys who jabbed alot from the outside. A good big'un will beat a good little'un every time, they say, and "they" are right.

The problem with Peter against Klitchko was mostly size/reach, and Vitali's great skill at using those against his opponents. Make no mistake, Vitali is very dangerous even against someone his own size, but against someone who's several inches shorter, he's completely unbeatable.

Peter showed more upper body movement against Vitali than I'd ever seen before, but he didn't seem to know how to use it to move inside and get off. Even if he had, I don't think he'd have been much more than competetive for a few rounds, considering how heavy handed Vitali is.

I still think Peter is easily in the top 12 or 15, though I'm not sure whether that's more reflective on Peter, or the current heavyweight division.

One thing for sure, though, is that Peter needs to be faster on his feet, with alot more upper body movement, and he won't achieve those things if he's 6'1" and weighs 250#. He needs to stay the **** away from ANY weight machines, dramatically change his diet, and start swimming laps for an hour a day, or running a minimum of 5 miles (swimming is low impact, and better overall, but ONLY if you push yourself while you're doing it). He could also increase his lung capacity by breathing exercises.

Peter needs to be around 230 or so, and can't do that without some serious dedication to training, something I think he's probably just mentally incapable of.

[Davros?]

That is exactly right. Tyson became such a superstar simply because he was a genius at getting inside without getting caught on the way in, had quick, accurate hands, and good power. If you'd taken away Tyson's almost savant-like ability to move inside in a flash, he'd never have been more than a gatekeeper. Even as he was, he had trouble with tall guys who jabbed alot from the outside. A good big'un will beat a good little'un every time, they say, and "they" are right.

The problem with Peter against Klitchko was mostly size/reach, and Vitali's great skill at using those against his opponents. Make no mistake, Vitali is very dangerous even against someone his own size, but against someone who's several inches shorter, he's completely unbeatable.

Peter showed more upper body movement against Vitali than I'd ever seen before, but he didn't seem to know how to use it to move inside and get off. Even if he had, I don't think he'd have been much more than competetive for a few rounds, considering how heavy handed Vitali is.

I still think Peter is easily in the top 12 or 15, though I'm not sure whether that's more reflective on Peter, or the current heavyweight division.

One thing for sure, though, is that Peter needs to be faster on his feet, with alot more upper body movement, and he won't achieve those things if he's 6'1" and weighs 250#. He needs to stay the **** away from ANY weight machines, dramatically change his diet, and start swimming laps for an hour a day, or running a minimum of 5 miles (swimming is low impact, and better overall, but ONLY if you push yourself while you're doing it). He could also increase his lung capacity by breathing exercises.

Peter needs to be around 230 or so, and can't do that without some serious dedication to training, something I think he's probably just mentally incapable of.

Once you are on the inside against a stand up fighter you have a big target for your body shots height can be an advantage but a shorter fighter can use it to his advantage as well, but getting on the inside is a skill in its self and peter doesn’t have the ability to do this, If you cant get on the inside with skill you would have to bully your way in and push your opponent back but that means taking a lot of punches.

[pesticid]

He slipped a few punches against the slow and shot Maskaeva and Toney and he thought he could do the same against Vitali.