King Feels Samuel Peter Can Bounce Back Strong

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Promoter Don King says former WBC heavyweight champion Samuel Peter can bounce back in a strong way after suffering the first loss of his career to Vitali Klitschko. Two weeks ago in Germany, Peter was dominated by Klitschko for eight rounds and was unable to come out for the ninth. [details]

sure he can
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He might be able to beat the other HWs, but the top 2 are the Klitschko bros, and he can't take either of em.

[edgarg]

I JUST HAVE to write about this, JUST CAN'T RESIST.................

Yes, as Don king says, Sam could easily "REBOUND"...al he needs to do is eat a little more until he's completely round, and then, like a rubber ball, he'll be able to "rebound.....As for "strong" it depends on which Klitschko is bouncing him....... Wladimir a little stronger than Vitaly, but not as accurate or consistent.

Since King "is ready to help him"....that's like the "kiss ofr death' to his pocket certainly, and to his contract freedom, definitely (as Lewis would say)

AND...there's no doubt bu that he needs the support of the Nigerian people, who, as we all know are the centre of the boxing world, as we know it...

AND....He just HAS to have in his corner, and, even perhaps hanging over his head by a strong cord, the Vice President with the euphonious name of "Goodluck Jonathan". [depending on how heavy he is- I'm sure he'd be willing] Perhaps for the occasion he will have it changed by deed poll to Goodluck Samuel".....

BUt.....I'm deeply sorry to say that I feel, that what will occur for the future will be ......Godswill Akpabio, especially if he ever faces either of the Klitschkos again.

It looks as if King has managed to squirrel away enough money to be able to take ove and appoint Samule to "rule the world," a phenomenon which would be vastly aided by having his future fights in Nigeria with solely Nigerian Judges and Referees....................Wadda Ya say Folks?????.

We all know that King can do anything.....................

[edgarg]

That is exactly right. Tyson became such a superstar simply because he was a genius at getting inside without getting caught on the way in, had quick, accurate hands, and good power. If you'd taken away Tyson's almost savant-like ability to move inside in a flash, he'd never have been more than a gatekeeper. Even as he was, he had trouble with tall guys who jabbed alot from the outside. A good big'un will beat a good little'un every time, they say, and "they" are right.

The problem with Peter against Klitchko was mostly size/reach, and Vitali's great skill at using those against his opponents. Make no mistake, Vitali is very dangerous even against someone his own size, but against someone who's several inches shorter, he's completely unbeatable.

Peter showed more upper body movement against Vitali than I'd ever seen before, but he didn't seem to know how to use it to move inside and get off. Even if he had, I don't think he'd have been much more than competetive for a few rounds, considering how heavy handed Vitali is.

I still think Peter is easily in the top 12 or 15, though I'm not sure whether that's more reflective on Peter, or the current heavyweight division.

One thing for sure, though, is that Peter needs to be faster on his feet, with alot more upper body movement, and he won't achieve those things if he's 6'1" and weighs 250#. He needs to stay the **** away from ANY weight machines, dramatically change his diet, and start swimming laps for an hour a day, or running a minimum of 5 miles (swimming is low impact, and better overall, but ONLY if you push yourself while you're doing it). He could also increase his lung capacity by breathing exercises.

Peter needs to be around 230 or so, and can't do that without some serious dedication to training, something I think he's probably just mentally incapable of.

Nadda tall, you couldn't call a guy with Tyson's belting power a "gatekeeper" You're all wrong here. And he had a lot more going for him than just getting inside. His speed was eye-opening. Many of his one-punch KO's were from outside, but delivered with such suddenness that the opponent couldn't re-act in time. Remember his right hand to the brisket and then to the jaw, before you could blink an eye???

And he had a lot more than that, amongst which was his gift of being able to throw miultiple combinations in double-quick time....and a lot more than that TOO....

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Nadda tall, you couldn't call a guy with Tyson's belting power a "gatekeeper" You're all wrong here. And he had a lot more going for him than just getting inside. His speed was eye-opening. Many of his one-punch KO's were from outside, but delivered with such suddenness that the opponent couldn't re-act in time. Remember his right hand to the brisket and then to the jaw, before you could blink an eye???

And he had a lot more than that, amongst which was his gift of being able to throw miultiple combinations in double-quick time....and a lot more than that TOO....

Sad to say but peter don't have the power that tyson had and probably don't even the speed like tyson.. He need to take that fat out off him...

[edgarg]

Once you are on the inside against a stand up fighter you have a big target for your body shots height can be an advantage but a shorter fighter can use it to his advantage as well, but getting on the inside is a skill in its self and peter doesn’t have the ability to do this, If you cant get on the inside with skill you would have to bully your way in and push your opponent back but that means taking a lot of punches.

He actually didn't "move inside in a flash" he went HUNTING his opponent with constant upper body movement made more confusing by his changes of weight distribution on his feet, he got many KO's from "outside, since his opponents were often bwemused by his constant "revolving" movements and kept their gloves and arms close to defend their bodies......and a hell of a lot more. Of course he did
get inside" but this wasn't his main goal. He did what he did, and was prepared for any opportuinity which arose.

And generally took it with grateful thanks.

[edgarg]

Sam Peter needs to work on how to get inside a long, fast jab. Both Klitschkos used the same strategy to defeat him.

We see too many boxers stand on the outside against those two and the Klitschkos, especially Wladimir more than Vitali, have a tough damaging jab that will rip a guy up if they stand at a distance. While a healthy Vitali could probably absorb a Peter barrage (If that powerful Lennox uppercut, that would have dropped any other heavy at the time, didn't put Vitali down in their fight, then only age will drop him), Wladimir showed he had trouble when Peter got inside and landed some clean head shots in the last rounds on their fight. However, we have never seen Peter reproduce the physical conditioning he had in that first Wlad fight. Perhaps a few less "yes men" around Peter and more focus on his cardio will improve him in the future. Time will tell. Who cares how much he weighs, it is the heavyweight division, but what does matter is the cardio shape he is in to last 12 rounds and keep his power throughout the fight, as he was able to do against Wladimir, even while taking a vicious beating from Wlad.

A lot of people are hard on Peter, but he has only lost twice - to the two best heavyweights in the division. Don't confuse the personality of Sam Peter with his loser loudmouth trash talking promoter who disrespects everyone. Focus on the boxer and what he does in the ring, not what all the "yes men" and his idiot promoter say when they hog the microphone at press conferences.

If Wladimir was "having trouble" when Peter got inside and landed clean head shots......CLEAN HEAD SHOTS......how come the "glass" chinned Klitschko wasn't in shards on the canvas???

I'll tell you why not...because Klitschko has a GOOD chin...There's no doubt that Peter DID land a few solid whacks to the chin, but the bothered Klitschko NOT AT ALL. What Sam was doing was, that, to be able to land those shots, he was rushing into KLlitschko, and Klitschko, who had a "china-chin" image to dispel with this fight, and just HAD-to-win-to-continue-his-career, played it safe and retreated fast.

That's how, in the 10th rd. he went backwards very fast, and, near the ropes, tripped and fell back into the ropes whilst avoiding the last (just about) despairing Samuel swing. It caused him to bounce to the canvas from which he got up immediately, continuing his boxing lesson. That bllind fool Neumann gave it as a KD, like he did the other two fouls, the one a rabbit punch, and the other a shoulder-grab and push-down.

[edgarg]

Sad to say but peter don't have the power that tyson had and probably don't even the speed like tyson.. He need to take that fat out off him...

Personally i don't think he can take that "fat" off. A lot of it may not be fat, just normal, body covering, since he has a physical body with a huge inner cavity, probably very large lungs, but anyway, with very large curved ribs, giving his a sort of barrel shape, with a bigger circumference than the next guy. And, from the normal gym exercises and boxing training, he acquires a standard amount of muscle, to cover that extra shape. Any fat he'd have, after undergoing training camp, would be small, or SHOULD be.

I doubt that he could get under 240, and for his height he'd need to be about 210-20.

If he had more skills he could get away with 225. But I think not more, at least at the top level. Hwe just doesn't have eitherthe skills or the quick reflexes a top fighter needs, unless he can take a huge amount of punishment, like poor David Izon. But as we've seen, he clearly can't,...or won't.

Just my opinion.

[runningbeast666]

He might be able to beat the other HWs, but the top 2 are the Klitschko bros, and he can't take either of em.

I agree Jason, but just dont kill me alright?
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