Did Tyson Duck Foreman in the 1990's?

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Tyson did not want Foreman, Foreman was calling him out from the late 80s all the way to the mid 90s, Tyson didn't want to fight him, stylistically, Foreman was all wrong for Tyson and he probably knew it.

in what way?

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Everybody and there mama belived Foreman would get hurt. And Tyson would just smile and say nothign bad about Foreman. Tyson tko Foreman.

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in what way?

Long arms, good jab, good uppercut, very powerful, never got discouraged (in his older years), and he had good timing for an old man.

[them_apples]

Long arms, good jab, good uppercut, very powerful, never got discouraged (in his older years), and he had good timing for an old man.

I don't think it was that, I think it was Foreman's height and strength and refusal to back up against anyone. Long arms and having a good jab wouldn't have done much to a younger Tyson even at that stage.

I still say in the 90's Tyson would land to many hard shots to early much like Holyfield did only he'd knock him out. People tend to overate the 90's foreman because it was so awesome to have Big old George back, but he was in his 40's and not in the best of shape.

Holyfield and Morrison both beat him quite handily, I see Tyson scoring some really hard shots on foreman early and getting the KO. Foreman wasn't one to tie a fighter up in the clinch, he usually just tried shoving them away, although he could easily shove Tyson around I don't think that would be enough to take on Tysons 2 fisted attack.

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I don't think it was that, I think it was Foreman's height and strength and refusal to back up against anyone. Long arms and having a good jab wouldn't have done much to a younger Tyson even at that stage.

I still say in the 90's Tyson would land to many hard shots to early much like Holyfield did only he'd knock him out. People tend to overate the 90's foreman because it was so awesome to have Big old George back, but he was in his 40's and not in the best of shape.

Holyfield and Morrison both beat him quite handily, I see Tyson scoring some really hard shots on foreman early and getting the KO. Foreman wasn't one to tie a fighter up in the clinch, he usually just tried shoving them away, although he could easily shove Tyson around I don't think that would be enough to take on Tysons 2 fisted attack.

A good jab always gave Tyson trouble, Foreman in his older years had a great, stiff, long jab, his height could have given Tyson trouble as well.

As I said, stylistically Foreman is not good for Tyson, Tyson and Holyfield fought differently, Tyson was more open to uppercuts than Holyfield on the way in and the jab can do wonders against Tyson as was demonstrated in the Douglas fight and the first few rounds on the Tucker fight, Foreman also had great power, and possessed a great chin.

What Holyfield and Morrison did against Foreman was get in and get out, they threw their combinations and got out before Foreman could get his range, Morrison was very effective doing that, Holyfield was well but Holyfield slacked up a couple of time in the fight and allowed Foreman to get his distance, which ended up with him eating a few big right hands. Tyson wasn't a guy that moved in and out like that, he was a guy that loved to come forward and stay inside until they break up or until his opponents go backward, Foreman wouldn't have gone backward.

I'm not picking him to win but Foreman would have been a very tough fight for Tyson even in his 40s.

[them_apples]

A good jab always gave Tyson trouble, Foreman in his older years had a great, stiff, long jab, his height could have given Tyson trouble as well.

As I said, stylistically Foreman is not good for Tyson, Tyson and Holyfield fought differently, Tyson was more open to uppercuts than Holyfield on the way in and the jab can do wonders against Tyson as was demonstrated in the Douglas fight and the first few rounds on the Tucker fight, Foreman also had great power, and possessed a great chin.

What Holyfield and Morrison did against Foreman was get in and get out, they threw their combinations and got out before Foreman could get his range, Morrison was very effective doing that, Holyfield was well but Holyfield slacked up a couple of time in the fight and allowed Foreman to get his distance, which ended up with him eating a few big right hands. Tyson wasn't a guy that moved in and out like that, he was a guy that loved to come forward and stay inside until they break up or until his opponents go backward, Foreman wouldn't have gone backward.

I'm not picking him to win but Foreman would have been a very tough fight for Tyson even in his 40s.

I don't think a stiff jab gave Tyson problems..most of the time he used it as a leverage point to leap in and hook his opponents while they had their jab extended. Tyson avoided the jab quite well. In fact I can't think of a single fight that Tyson did bad when the fight was kept on the outside, all of his losses were from clinching and uppercuts.

With that said, a Prime Foreman probably beats Tyson, but in the 90's I wouldn't think so, much much to slow and less workrate and aggression.

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Tyson only faced scrubs remember..He only faced his bigger challengers when he absolutely had to

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I don't think a stiff jab gave Tyson problems..most of the time he used it as a leverage point to leap in and hook his opponents while they had their jab extended. Tyson avoided the jab quite well. In fact I can't think of a single fight that Tyson did bad when the fight was kept on the outside, all of his losses were from clinching and uppercuts.

With that said, a Prime foreman probably beats Tyson, but in the 90's I wouldn't think so, much much to slow and less workrate and aggression.

A jab stiff jab gave Tyson lots of problems, especially when a fight went on when he loses some of his speed and upper body movement, Tyson was getting jabbed well in the Tucker fight until possibly the 3rd or 4th round when Tucker broke his hand, Douglas was eating him up on the outside with the jab as well, Lewis made Tyson eat his jab but that was when Tyson was far from his best, I think only Holyfield managed to beat Tyson at his own game on the inside.

It still would have been a tough fight in the 90s, not saying Foreman would win but it would have been tough.

[them_apples]

A jab stiff jab gave Tyson lots of problems, especially when a fight went on when he loses some of his speed and upper body movement, Tyson was getting jabbed well in the Tucker fight until possibly the 3rd or 4th round when Tucker broke his hand, Douglas was eating him up on the outside with the jab as well, Lewis made Tyson eat his jab but that was when Tyson was far from his best, I think only Holyfield managed to beat Tyson at his own game on the inside.

It still would have been a tough fight in the 90s, not saying Foreman would win but it would have been tough.

you shouldn't really use the douglas and Lewis fights for examples, Holmes and Spinks both had good jabs and didn't make much of it.

Tucker did do well, but so did Tyson, Tyson avoided Many of his jabs and landed some heavy bombs. Foreman has a heavy jab but he can't use it like Tucker did. It wasn't a huge issue really in the Tucker fight, it was the uppercut more the less and the fact that Tucker was 6'5 1/2 and undefeated (he had a decent record, being undefeated means nothing I know).

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you shouldn't really use the douglas and Lewis fights for examples, Holmes and Spinks both had good jabs and didn't make much of it.

Tucker did do well, but so did Tyson, Tyson avoided Many of his jabs and landed some heavy bombs. Foreman has a heavy jab but he can't use it like Tucker did. It wasn't a huge issue really in the Tucker fight, it was the uppercut more the less and the fact that Tucker was 6'5 1/2 and undefeated (he had a decent record, being undefeated means nothing I know).

I wouldn't use the Holmes and Spinks comparison either, both of them were coming off lengthy layoffs and one of them was in semi-retirement.

Tucker did well with his jab until he broke his hand in the 3rd or 4th I think it was, the jab blinds Tyson to the uppercut which would work in Foreman's favor because Foreman's jab would play a factor in the fight and Foreman had a devastating uppercut, again I'm not saying Foreman wins but it wouldn't be a blowout and would be a tough for Tyson because of their styles.