Both Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jr ducked rematches against Hopkins

[Chunk..]

So Roy didnt want to use a promoter? lol..

Yeah okay, thats ree****yalus...

Joe and Roy are getting half of everything.

[THE REED]

Joe and Roy are getting half of everything.

exactly......

[Dan...]

I'm more of a Hop fan than a Jones fan, but I agree. I think Hopkins would be competative and would pose problems to Roy, but Roy was to fast and athletic. That's how you beat Bernard.

Noone doesn't have problems with a prime BHop. Def would have been a competitive fight, I just think prime Roy would have had a little too much.

[Dan...]

So Roy didnt want to use a promoter? lol..

Yeah okay, thats ree****yalus...

It's more the fact that Bernard would clearly have been receiving a proportion of that 25% as a business partner in GBP, meaning he would earn more money than Roy for the fight.

[ACHlLLES]

Noone doesn't have problems with a prime BHop. Def would have been a competitive fight, I just think prime Roy would have had a little too much.

Who do you got now? I actually think Hopkins embarrasses Roy now. Roys reflexes are **** compared to what they were in his prime. And I also think Roy wouldn't have beaten Pavlik, but thats just my opinion(the roy of now).

[goldenglove2]

explain to me what roy and joe are doing right now?


square ring is roys promotional company, hes not gonna pay GBP 25% of the purse for something he can and does do

the promoter is USUALLY who pays you. That being said was RJJ expecting Hopkins to draw up his own contract with out his promoter and fax it to him?

use your head Ree****yalus..

you said so YOURSELF..that Roy told Hop to send him a contract. Why didnt he says lets together and do one. PLus these things are negotiatable..they have to start somewhere..

[THE REED]

the promoter is USUALLY who pays you. That being said was RJJ expecting Hopkins to draw up his own contract with out his promoter and fax it to him?

use your head Ree****yalus..

you said so YOURSELF..that Roy told Hop to send him a contract. Why didnt he says lets together and do one. PLus these things are negotiatable..they have to start somewhere..

No when you say 50/50 its 50/50

you use your HEAD


JOE SENT ROY A CONTRACT.. and guess what?


ITS 50/50

[Dan...]

Who do you got now? I actually think Hopkins embarrasses Roy now. Roys reflexes are **** compared to what they were in his prime. And I also think Roy wouldn't have beaten Pavlik, but thats just my opinion(the roy of now).

I would say I haven't seen enough from Roy over the past few years to suggest he would be able to beat the Hopkins that fought Pavlik the other night. I hope to be pleasantly surprised against Calzaghe though.

[Chunk..]

It's more the fact that Bernard would clearly have been receiving a proportion of that 25% as a business partner in GBP, meaning he would earn more money than Roy for the fight.

Bingo. We have a winner.

[Spiegelo]

No when you say 50/50 its 50/50

you use your HEAD


JOE SENT ROY A CONTRACT.. and guess what?


ITS 50/50

Joe had fired his manager and was without promotion though. It was easier to be free of these middle men cause he wasn't still bound to a contract. Bernard on the other hand, is a president of Golden Boy East, and can't break his ties so easily. Besides, he wanted to beat the man who beat Roy instead and is now looking to wait for Roy to generate the kind of money they both deserve to make for their final megafight.