Bernard Hopkins: All Time Great...

[joseph5620]

De La Hoya, Trinidad, Wright, Pavlik.. ALL had to move up to fight him.
He's lost to Taylor (twice), Calzaghe, Roy Jones.
Allan, Joppy, Eastman, and Johnson I give him credit for.

But the first four?? that's like giving De La Hoya credit for fighting lightweights in this day and age.
I guarantee if De La Hoya wins against Manny they wont give him as much credit as they did Hopkins for barely beating a blown up Winky Wright or such.

This is pure bull**** from a hater. I have no respect for haters because they let their emotions dictate how they rate a fighter. Catching feelings? You need a box of tampons, homey. First of all,Trinidad was not"moving up in weight" when he fought Hopkins. Trinidad had previously walked through and destroyed a talented middleweight champion in William Joppy. Trinidad was not moving up. He was already a middleweight belt holder when he faced Hopkins. Second, before the Hopkins-Pavlik fight you were one of the main posters talking about how Hopkins was going to get his ass kicked. now that it didn't happen you pull the weight card ignoring the fact that they fought a catch weight which benefited Pavlik.Not to mention that Pavlik is a huge middleweight who struggles to make 160. Comparing that to Delahoya -Paquiao is desperation from a hater. If you thought the size was such a factor then you would have mentioned it before the fight instead of the bull**** excuses you're coming up with now. You said Hopkins was going to get his ass kicked and now you want to make excuses like a bitter little girl. Hopkins is an all time great. Anybody who says otherwise is a hater or ignorant.

[Truth]

61-3......

[Truth]

This is pure bull**** from a hater. I have no respect for haters because they let their emotions dictate how they rate a fighter. Catching feelings? You need a box of tampons, homey. First of all,Trinidad was not"moving up in weight" when he fought Hopkins. Trinidad had previously walked through and destroyed a talented middleweight champion in William Joppy. Trinidad was not moving up. He was already a middleweight belt holder when he faced Hopkins. Second, before the Hopkins-Pavlik fight you were one of the main posters talking about how Hopkins was going to get his ass kicked. now that it didn't happen you pull the weight card ignoring the fact that they fought a catch weight which benefited Pavlik.Not to mention that Pavlik is a huge middleweight who struggles to make 160. Comparing that to Delahoya -Paquiao is desperation from a hater. If you thought the size was such a factor then you would have mentioned it before the fight instead of the bull**** excuses you're coming up with now. You said Hopkins was going to get his ass kicked and now you want to make excuses like a bitter little girl. Hopkins is an all time great. Anybody who says otherwise is a hater or ignorant.

lol

thats whats happening. people that don't like hopkins had an excuse built in just case the unthinkable happened. they pulled the weight card...lol. pretty good plan actually, because it negates the win in their minds. I don't think going to 170 from 160 is a huge deal. Like you said, Pavlik is a big middle.

[KESSLER]

Of course, he is.

[Truth]

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[Silencers]

I've always been skeptical about Hopkins but yes, he is an ATG.

[keepthemhandsup]

that not even a question...this thread sucks j/k

[keepthemhandsup]

So you saying 10+ pounds don't matter in boxing? What if someone like Pavlik made the rest of his career fighting welterweights?.. would he be an all time great?
Hopkins is a dirty fighter who should have been disqualified many a times for disobeying boxing rules who's greatest fights where against smaller oposition. Hall of Famer, yes.
No all time great..

didn't yo boy pavlik was throwing rabbit shots in the fight with b-hop

[Tuggers1986]

bradicalusa220, Fighta, Left Hook Tito, Rookieboy, Sin City

These guys gotta be kidding!

[Truth]

that not even a question...this thread sucks j/k

no, it exposes that after all hes accomplished, there are still people that don't want to give him the nod. Its interesting...