Pavlik ruined?????

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  • TEXSTRO
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    #11
    You dont just lose vinny paz style and be mentally fine....The thing is there is a great chance he might lose his next fight and the next....WHy because any smart fighter will use Hopkins game plan.....And it will work everytime Y u ask cause Jack Loew does not have an answer!!!!!Only way he can have a sucessfull career from here on out is getting a new trainer..He hit his plateau already time for some change to advance...

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    • steptwome
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      #12
      Originally posted by T-97
      Pavlik was hailed as an unbeatable monster after beating Gary "The Rocket" Lockett
      And this round paints a different picture

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      • Zerwas1
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        #13
        Pavlik has the problem, that every opponent he faces from now on got a blue print how to beat him. He got a problem against slick fighters

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        • Flawless 2
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          #14
          Originally posted by T-97
          Cotto is a 2 weight champion, and has beaten an ATG in Mosley.

          Pavlik is a 1 weight champion who's only good wins are Taylor (Who struggled with Cory Spinks FFS) and Miranda ()
          WOW

          When was Mosley prime against Cotto??? I don't think so, that fight was more likely a draw. Good wins over Taylor?? Taylor for fuck sake beat Hopkins TWICE.

          Cotto is now the 3rd best fighter he is divison maybe even 4th after Clottey. pavlik is still NO1 in the MW division and he will never quit like Cotto did

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          • Nacho_Analstain
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            #15
            Originally posted by Fulcrum29
            Nope I GUARANTEE you he's 100% a grade ruined just like Lacy. 1 dimensional club fighters like Lacy, Pavlik etc they don't have mental tenacity they don't have that fortitude and ability to come back and as the commentators on HBO said Hopkins ruins fighters hwen he destroys them. No fighter that Hopkins ever destroyed has regained supremacy anywhere. He ruins them psychologically because he ****s them so hard they never want to box again because they are filled with self doubt for the rest of their days.

            I guaranteed everyone that Hopkins would destroy Pavlik before the fight and I am guaranteeing you right now, Powder is destroyed and ruined he will never do anything of prominence again.
            Pavlik isn't Lacy, so long as he stays away from bigger weights he can dominate 160, he is a mentally strong fighter and i think he could gain more than he lost in this fight.

            Originally posted by Flawless 2
            No one in Cotto resume is good as Taylor.
            Pavlik got beaten by Hopkins and outclassed. Cotto got destroyed and embarrassed like the coward he is. He quit and never acknowledge Margarito right after the fight. Pavlik has 2 titles at MW and aslo ring title. Cotto has nothing, he lost his dignity against Margarito.

            Cotto got exposed worse IMO, Losing to an ATG is nothing bad
            Cotto was actually winning the fight and showed plenty of signs of winning, also he did acknowledge Marg, he walked over to him at the end of the fight and gave him a hug and a few words, then went to his locker room.

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            • Kakutogi-Gumi
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              #16
              If he doesn't, he's a moron.

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              • T-97
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                #17
                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                When was Mosley prime against Cotto???
                Please point out where I claimed he was.

                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                I don't think so, that fight was more likely a draw.
                I didn't know you suffered vision problems, sorry to hear that.

                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                Good wins over Taylor?? Taylor for fuck sake beat Hopkins TWICE.
                Ermmmm. Yes, good wins over Taylor. What? Are you insinuating they were ****?

                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                Cotto is now the 3rd best fighter he is divison maybe even 4th after Clottey. pavlik is still NO1 in the MW division and he will never quit like Cotto did
                Cotto will never be school by a 43 year old man..

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                • Fulcrum29
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by azza
                  Pavlik isn't Lacy, so long as he stays away from bigger weights he can dominate 160, he is a mentally strong fighter and i think he could gain more than he lost in this fight.



                  Cotto was actually winning the fight and showed plenty of signs of winning, also he did acknowledge Marg, he walked over to him at the end of the fight and gave him a hug and a few words, then went to his locker room.
                  Pavlik isn't lacy you're right he will never be even as good as Lacy. Dominate 160 that's a laugh, as long as he ducks Abraham maybe

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                  • Flawless 2
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by T-97

                    Cotto will never be school by a 43 year old man..
                    Name me a fighter Cotto has fought good as Hopkins??

                    Gomez

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                    • T-97
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Flawless 2
                      Name me a fighter Cotto has fought good as Hopkins??
                      Cotto and Pavlik have both fought 1 ATG.

                      Pavlik fought Hopkins, and got schooled.

                      Cotto fought Mosley, and won a close but clear decision.

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