Pavlik ruined?????

[solo20]

nah iam not black forget the panthers

[dsstang25]

He needs to learn to pounce. He needs to learn hate and use his fear to his advantage. When someone hits or dazes him he should react with quick hard 10 hit combos while bobbing and weaving and moving around like crazy. He can take a hit, that is known. He has heavy hands and can deliver a solid one knock out punch, especially if he had better conditioning. So why doesn't he take advantage of that and become a pouncer that throws tons of hits? Sure it takes more conditioning, by the looks of his conditioning he needs more of everything. With those long arms, he could bob and weave at a slightly out of reach position and nail people constantly without even having to get in close.

[Fulcrum29]

He needs to learn to pounce. He needs to learn hate and use his fear to his advantage. When someone hits or dazes him he should react with quick hard 10 hit combos while bobbing and weaving and moving around like crazy. He can take a hit, that is known. He has heavy hands and can deliver a solid one knock out punch, especially if he had better conditioning. So why doesn't he take advantage of that and become a pouncer that throws tons of hits? Sure it takes more conditioning, by the looks of his conditioning he needs more of everything. With those long arms, he could bob and weave at a slightly out of reach position and nail people constantly without even having to get in close.

Damn you sound like someone else I know.

[The Surgeon]

He will be the same guy he always was, a 1 dimensional white guy who walks in behind a steady and hurtfull 1-2, very basic but hard punching, good chin, solid workrate, big heart and not much else! Still gonna be marketable and im still a fan, fans who bail after a loss make me sick!

I think he beats all the middle weights out there tho.

That dont mean i think him fighting at the higfher weight had anything to do with him losing, it just means i rate him over the other guys at MW

[The Surgeon]

Damn you sound like someone else I know.

haha classic!

[Chase8400]

Nope I GUARANTEE you he's 100% a grade ruined just like Lacy. 1 dimensional club fighters like Lacy, Pavlik etc they don't have mental tenacity they don't have that fortitude and ability to come back and as the commentators on HBO said Hopkins ruins fighters hwen he destroys them. No fighter that Hopkins ever destroyed has regained supremacy anywhere. He ruins them psychologically because he ****s them so hard they never want to box again because they are filled with self doubt for the rest of their days.

I guaranteed everyone that Hopkins would destroy Pavlik before the fight and I am guaranteeing you right now, Powder is destroyed and ruined he will never do anything of prominence again.

Tarver went on to win another world title. I would not call that ruined, exactly. So did Glen Johnson and DeLaHoya. Tito has still been a force as well. This falsifies your statement acually.

[djsygo]

he needs to spar boxers that can move in the ring, or stay away from them in fights...maybe a change of trainer is necessary. His story looks a lot like hatton's, only hes younger and hopefully for him he can learn