Will Boxing Catch On To The Catch at Catchweights?

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  • JakeNDaBox
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    #11
    Originally posted by ListenUpWell
    Oh **** sorry, my bad.
    no worries, I can see where it can be misinterpreted. Although I thought the future Hall of Famer reference was enough to suggest I was still talking about Wink. Pavlik might get there one day, but he's a long, long way off, and I'd be saying that even if he won last weekend.

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    • JakeNDaBox
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      #12
      Originally posted by GreatestIAM
      Dude sounds like an ******* for the first few paragraphs then tries to give Hop credit but, this ish is offensive to me
      I figured this would be the reaction, and I don't blame anyone for feeling that way.

      I'm on record saying this was the most impressive performance of his career, considering the fight itself, his age, how far removed he is from his prime, and that Pavlilk, despite moving up 10 lb, is in the heart of his prime.

      IMO, weight wasn't a factor in what happened Saturday night. Pavlik's a massive-sized middleweight who can't make that weight forever. If this is how he's going to look once he grows out of 160, then he's in a lot of trouble. It wasn't similar to Wright devouring junk food to make 170; Pavlik has the frame to make the weight, so if it becomes an excuse, it's not a valid one.

      I'm just saying that HBO has yet to come up with the catchweight that serves any other purpose than further prolonging the career of a legend, whether they mean to or not.

      Obviously, that wasn't their intention last weekend, but it still worked out that way. And as Rick mentioned over the weekend, we'll see where they stand midway through their December 6 money-grab.

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      • ListenUpWell
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        #13
        Originally posted by JakeNDaBox
        no worries, I can see where it can be misinterpreted. Although I thought the future Hall of Famer reference was enough to suggest I was still talking about Wink. Pavlik might get there one day, but he's a long, long way off, and I'd be saying that even if he won last weekend.
        Yeah that's what made me jump the gun, I read future hall of famer line and thought "Pavlik? Already? You're smoking crack" lol I distracted myself from seeing that you meant Wright. I agree with what you say, Pavlik has a lot of work to do especially once he starts struggling to make weight (and he will do with that frame). When he comes up against a smart fighter who isn't feather-fisted (which will happen in the higher weight classes with more frequency), he's in serious trouble going by that performance. Maybe time for a new trainer???

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        • rj_ct
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          #14
          catchweights are one of the worst things to happen to boxing.

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          • gridiron
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            #15
            I do not understand this article!

            ‘Today’s version of catchweight bouts come with a different flavor. They’re no longer designed for the sport’s best to keep busy while awaiting bigger and better things to come. Instead, they’re glorified cash grabs’ (???)

            Firstly, if a fighter wants to test his skills against a heavier opponent, why not? And ‘glorified cash grabs’? Well, the fighters also make money of it. I guess, Mr. Donovan writes not only for his pleasure, but also to earn a few bucks. ‘Designed for the sport’s best’ – you seriously can’t mean that 17 weight classes (and a dozen of “world” champs in each) are for the sport’s best. Of course, we will get a lot of catchweight contests under these circumstances.

            ‘So what we’re left with now is a middleweight champion in the prime of his career who didn’t just lose to a faded former champion 17 years his senior, but was utterly embarrassed.’

            The fighters are the ones risking their health and lives at our pleasure, so no fighter should be called an embarrassment just because he lost a match. Mr. Donovan, who usually is a most competent writer, should himself be embarressed for writing this piece of ****.

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            • eav
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              #16
              no brainer here

              why catchweight fights? well, maybe because the governing bodies are so corrupted that the fighters don't want to give 40% of the purse to them anymore. who cares about titles let alone belts. i mean, everyone has one. You give Soliman a little cash and you're the number one contender. Vitali just became champ...don't know why he would have a title shot after so long..., and now he has to box a nobody if not he will be stripped. Calzaghe was stripped of his title. the guy has been champ for a decade...i mean seriously. to make 147 or 150, i'd rather see them have a rule to respect whatever weight class and to not be able to rehydrate more than 5 pounds before the fight. Gatti was a pro, he'd gain 15 pounds...i mean, is that respecting the weight class? Catchweight to get rid of WBO, IBF, RING MAGAZINE...all for it. it's not like they try to make the best fights out there...

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              • larryx
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                #17
                How Is Pavlik Vs Hopkins A Mismatch..bhop Is A Natural 160 Fighter..this Guy Will Never I Mean Never Get Any Credit

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                • KnockoutTheFat
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                  #18
                  *Awaits the big 4 to sanction catchweight title fights...*

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                  • larryx
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by rj_ct
                    catchweights Are One Of The Worst Things To Happen To Boxing.
                    No Its Not..when They Made More Than 1 Belt Per Division..thats When It Went Down Hill

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                      *Awaits the big 4 to sanction catchweight title fights...*
                      Awaits WBA's new Super Mega Omega Supreme 2 pounds over the limit catch weight interim champion....

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