Style's make fights........

[keepthemhandsup]

kelly isn't trash...he just cant fight well in the 170's which is why he wouldn't stand a chance anginst calz..

[ACHlLLES]

5. if calzaghe and pavlik fought I would choose pavlik because joe doesnt know how to fight backing up and pavlik doesnt fight going backwards.

How's Pavlik going to back Joe up when Joe's the one who had Hopkins on the ropes at times in there fight(something Pavlik couldn't even do). When joe also had kessler and lacy on the ropes. Oh please, your logic is flawed. Calzaghe would give pavlik a spanking for 12 round if not tko Pavlik, Pavlik is a crappier version of Kessler.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

Agree'd that styles make fights. Plenty of people here don't realize it. But it seems Pavlik really dominates almost anyone who is smaller or has less of a defense, and when I say dominates, I mean it. Slick, technical, defensive fighters are obviously his weakness.

[S A M U R A I]

Another example of Calzaghe being able to fight going backwards -- the Byron Mitchell fight (round 2, after Joe gets put down, gets up, then floors Mitchell).



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[steptwome]

You jacka$$es on this forum dont seem to understand this concept
when I started to box in the amateurs about a year ago I was taught this concept before even learning my jab, with different fighters you have to fight different ways. yesterday night was a great example.

statements that need to be made.

1. Kelly pavlik is not trash
But he needs to add more VARIETY to his offense

2. B-hops win doesnt do **** for calzaghe's resume,because kelly and joe fight differently
With respect that Slapzaghe swamps you with ACTIVITY, albeit .. factoring in favor of judges and punchstat numbers
Pavlik basically Jab overhand right/ straight right hand

3. kelly was suited for bernards style ....and kinda reminds me of tito trinidad
Disagree Trinidad is a much more refined complete boxer. The only atrribute that is similiar is the fact that they both press the action

4. if calzaghe fought bernard again the fight will look the same but the outcomemight be different
The outcome will be different because Hopkins only mistake was he didn't mount enough offense to compliment his good defensive tactics against Joe

5. if calzaghe and pavlik fought I would choose pavlik because joe doesnt know how to fight backing up and pavlik doesnt fight going backwards.
Calzaghe has lateral movement, Pavlik has shown that is of foreign nature

6.B-HOP ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good points but........read the above

[Zerwas1]

now who's stronger kelly or joe?

Calzaghe is far stronger than kelly Pavlik. Joe Calzaghe walks around at almost 200 pounds between fights. Joe is a BIG super middleweight.

Pavlik is 6' 2''


Calzaghe 5' 11''


Calzaghe is smaller and has more muscle=stronger, but boxing ain't about being strong.
Cal has his own trick bag, is faster, southpaw, better faster footwork.
More experienced, better stamina, better defense, better suited to the weight etc.
There aren't many categories in which Pavlik is better.

[Duke McKenzie_]

You jacka$$es on this forum dont seem to understand this concept
when I started to box in the amateurs about a year ago I was taught this concept before even learning my jab, with different fighters you have to fight different ways. yesterday night was a great example.

statements that need to be made.

1. Kelly pavlik is not trash

2. B-hops win doesnt do **** for calzaghe's resume,because kelly and joe fight differently

3. kelly was suited for bernards style ....and kinda reminds me of tito trinidad

4. if calzaghe fought bernard again the fight will look the same but the outcomemight be different

5. if calzaghe and pavlik fought I would choose pavlik because joe doesnt know how to fight backing up and pavlik doesnt fight going backwards.

6.B-HOP ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're a ****ing idiot. And "styles" doesn't have an apostophe.

[-Antonio-]

Pavlik would look like Lacy against Joe.

BrooklynKid, you said Joe can't fight going backwards. I ask you, how many Joe Calzaghe fights have you studied? And I believe you said you were boxing yourself, so I emphasize the word "studied".

Joe likes his opponents to come to him. Watch the Lacy fight again, please.

I figure is would look more like the Kessler fight. It's been proven that Lacy was never that good. I think Zaghe beat Kessler 117-111 anyway...

I dont think he's capable of doing what Hopkins did because he's not as defensive, or as strong. It doesnt matter anyway. This fight will never happen now.

[brooklyn kid]

its just an opinion

I just think that kelly will beat calzaghe if they fought, it will depend on how
pavlik comes back because if hes like lacy and starts fighting like **** then i
would easily say calzaghe, but i just think that pavlik will still beat calzaghe

[brooklyn kid]

and cut the bull**** calzaghe is not as good a boxer as people give
him credit for, he is grossly overrated the ONLY thing he had going for him against bernard is workrate, thats it. he could barely land a clean punch
on bernard let alone outbox him.