all the pavlik hate is unwarrented

[kadafee]

pavlik is still goodand would beat most from middle to light heavy, bernard hopkins was just bernard hopkins last night.

[RodBarker]

Most on this board can only see whats right in front of their face , one guy beating another is all they can see , yesterday said to me that Kelly cannot fight at the higher weights , it takes his only assets away from him so then you got nothing and thats what he fought like , no snap no power and tiring from the second round , Pavlik at middleweight fighting middleweights is a different fighter cant these people see snap when its not there , I expected Kelly to pull it off yesterday and said many times the weight is the only thing that bothers me , not taking anything away from Bhop at all , great great champion that said himself it was his best performance in his entire career , yesterdays Bhop would have beat Cal and Taylor in my view his timing and snap was like 10 yrs ago .

Look at these idiots on this board , who would win Pavlik vs Dawson Kessler Cal , the guy is a middleweight for crying out loud dont the fools on this site take weight into consideration , look at Bhop at 170 and Bhop at 175 he is a different fighter and its only a few pounds , more ripped lighter on his feet more stamina and faster hands , people need to realize at this level of competition little things can turn around to bite you in the ass with big consequences , to bag a fighter because he lost to an ATG outside of his division shows these people are not fight fans at all , just big mouth haters that live to hate on people that fall over when they stick their neck out to challenge themselves , lots of ****baggers on this site .

Pavlik is a good kid modest with a big heart , lets see him back where its very obvious he belongs at middle and then judge him as a fighter .

[turnpike]

Good post...

Personally I would love to see B-Hop and Calzaghe at 168 or 170 as both fighters would bring more zip.

Both fighters are too skilled for Pavlik and he wouldnt compete with them at the higher weight...but thats not to say that he cannot dominate 160 for years to come. There are fewer and fewer fighters around who show the ringmanship and skill of some of the older crew...

[CaRnAgEViOLaToR]

i was never a fan of kelly to begin with but i respect him a whole lot. he got beaten down/taken to school by a true great but thats nothing to be ashamed off.

he should move back down to 160 and have a few more fights there before moving up again. he should fight marco antonio rubio...

pavlik was def. overrated but hes a good fighter.