Who's greater? Bernard Hopkins or Joe Calzaghe

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  • Kris Silver
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    #21
    They're resumes have a lot of similiarities to be honest, biggest wins later on in their careers. Calzaghe beat him fair and square in a bad night for him, so he's a better boxer right now. I also think he'd beat him prime for prime as Hopkins did not have the ring intelligence, defence or countering he has now which were his greatest weapons.

    Hopkins wins post 40 over the LHW #1, Winky, and the MW #1 whom was undefeated and well favoured probably lends a more favourable impressive value to Hopkins over all resume though.

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    • KingArthur
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      #22
      Originally posted by revs1227
      ask thsi question after calzagke tkos roy
      Ya even if Calz does TKO ROY, and thats a big IF, BHop ALL THE WAY.

      Trinidad
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      Winky
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      Its not even close people


      What about Calz

      Eubank
      Lacy (OVER-RATED)
      Kessler
      BHop
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      Dont be biased gents

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      • The Gully Gad
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        #23
        Originally posted by KingArthur
        Ya even if Calz does TKO ROY, and thats a big IF, BHop ALL THE WAY.

        Trinidad
        ODLH
        Winky
        LAST NIGHT (Historic Performance)
        20 SUCCESSFUL Middleweight Defences
        TARVER

        Its not even close people


        What about Calz

        Eubank
        Lacy (OVER-RATED)
        Kessler
        BHop
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        .................................................. ...


        Dont be biased gents
        I expect Jones to raise his game even more so now seeing what Hopkins did..
        Jones to win on points and at times make Joe look like a novice...

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        • Pullcounter
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          #24
          hopkins has done everything in boxing that a fan could ask for. dominated a division. fought the best around his weight class even though they were risky fights. resurrect himself from the grave several times.

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          • dobermann28
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            #25
            i am a big calzaghe fan...but it has to be bhop!!

            the man is probebly the smartest boxer alive!!! he can do so many diffrent thing in the ring!!

            and you have to admire how he changed his style as he got older!!! ok he is not as fast or as powerful anymore...but he has change in a way that makes him just as deadly as when he was 23...very impressive!!!!!!!!!

            p.s. clazaghe is still the best SMW of all time!!! IMO

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            • squealpiggy
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              #26
              There's not too much difference in my opinion in terms of their overall record. Both guys spent a long time in a single weight class racking up defenses and fighting lesser opposition. Hopkins then had a couple of high profile wins over Trinidad and De La Hoya which Calzaghe was missing. There again would you pick either Oscar De La Hoya or Felix Trinidad to beat Joe Calzaghe?

              So let's look at it objectively:

              The same:

              Large number of title defenses against weak opposition
              A few outstanding performances against names late on in their career.

              Differences:

              Hopkins holds a couple of marquee name wins against opposition from lower weight divisions
              Hopkins has several losses including two against Jermaine Taylor
              Calzaghe is undefeated
              Calzaghe beat Hopkins

              I still say it's about even.

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              • CaRnAgEViOLaToR
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                #27
                why is this even a question..just watch their careers...calzaghe was lucky to get a gift.

                of course hopkins is greater

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                • Ryn0
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                  #28
                  You should ask this in in December when both Hopkins fans have come down off there high and see if Joe beats Jones and wait for the Joe fans to come down from cloud 9. When the fans are less bias.

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                  • S A M U R A I
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                    #29
                    Ask me that question when Joe and Bernard are retired. Right now, for me, it's probably a tie between the two. Love 'em both.



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                      #30
                      Originally posted by KingArthur
                      Ya even if Calz does TKO ROY, and thats a big IF, BHop ALL THE WAY.

                      Trinidad
                      ODLH
                      Winky
                      LAST NIGHT (Historic Performance)
                      20 SUCCESSFUL Middleweight Defences
                      TARVER

                      Its not even close people


                      What about Calz

                      Eubank
                      Lacy (OVER-RATED)
                      Kessler
                      BHop
                      .................................................. ....
                      .................................................. ...
                      .................................................. ...


                      Dont be biased gents
                      You mention Hopkins 20 defences but not Calzaghe's 21 defences. And you don't want people to be biased.

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