Let's all agree now. Calzaghe is an ATG.

[Kris Silver]

Bernard was washed up when he fought Joe, then became prime when he fought Pavlik.

Yup. Bloody typical euro bum protects his belt for years, finally comes to the mecca of boxing to face a totally past it Hopkins.

Hopkins just had his best win schooling a young undefeated well favoured p4p in Pavlik you say. Oh ****, errr. I gotta find something new to say...



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[BattlingNelson]

Yup. Bloody typical euro bum protects his belt for years, finally comes to the mecca of boxing to face a totally past it Hopkins.

Hopkins just had his best win schooling a young undefeated well favoured p4p in Pavlik you say. Oh ****, errr. I gotta find something new to say...



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[The Hammer]

So Calzaghe fought the worst fight in a long time against Hopkins but still won.

Hopkins followed the loss with a schooling of the young, favoured undefeated Pavlik.

Even the yanks must now acknowledge. Joe Calzaghe is an ALL-TIME-GREAT!

You're absolutely right, BatTheMan!

Only a delusional hater would deny it.

[marsman]

Sorry Man but just because the Judges said he won doesn't mean that it was true. Hopkjins lost because of the white boy line. They punished him for that. Thats why he learned his lesson conducted himself in a more intelligent manner agains Pavilik. In my neighborhood and school of thought. When two men fight , when one has been knocked down, wobbled, and cut while their opponent has felt neither of these circumstances we consider the one who wasn't knocked down, cut or wobbled, the winner.Also despite the decision, after the fight even during the fight i would've rther been Hopkins. If getting your face ****e up and brain rocked entails victory to you, then your an idiot and I'd fight you anyday.

[The Hammer]

Sorry Man but just because the Judges said he won doesn't mean that it was true. Hopkjins lost because of the white boy line. They punished him for that. Thats why he learned his lesson conducted himself in a more intelligent manner agains Pavilik. In my neighborhood and school of thought. When two men fight , when one has been knocked down, wobbled, and cut while their opponent has felt neither of these circumstances we consider the one who wasn't knocked down, cut or wobbled, the winner.Also despite the decision, after the fight even during the fight i would've rther been Hopkins. If getting your face ****e up and brain rocked entails victory to you, then your an idiot and I'd fight you anyday.

Bull****, Hopkins clearly lost the last 8 rounds of his fight with Joe. He even had to fake being hurt by a low blow to buy time enable him to finish the fight.

[Mr. Philadel]

You're absolutely right, BatTheMan!

Only a delusional hater would deny it.

well I guess I'm officially a delusional hater I can't and won't deny that Joe Calzaghe is an EXCELLENT fighter.......but he has to accomplish way more to be considered an ATG.......Calzaghe defended the strap more than any dude alive, but most critics didn't rate his opponents that high. Calzaghe is undefeated and we all know that the Win Lost stat is one of the biggest deceivers in boxing. Joe is finally gettin in the ring with the WORLD'S best.....not the alphabet belt's best, but the WORLD's best. So far many still dispute his SD win over a 43 yr. old Hopkins, now lets see what he can do with a aging Roy Jones Jr. For his sake it would be wise to continue on and fight Chad Dawson(an up and coming young stallion like Pavlik) and expose the kid the way B-Hop did Kelly and then see what he has to offer a Froch or a Taylor then we can start with that ATG talk for Calzaghe. Are you not satisfied with him being an EXCELLENT fighter?

[Ray*]

well I guess I'm officially a delusional hater I can't and won't deny that Joe Calzaghe is an EXCELLENT fighter.......but he has to accomplish way more to be considered an ATG.......Calzaghe defended the strap more than any dude alive, but most critics didn't rate his opponents that high. Calzaghe is undefeated and we all know that the Win Lost stat is one of the biggest deceivers in boxing. Joe is finally gettin in the ring with the WORLD'S best.....not the alphabet belt's best, but the WORLD's best. So far many still dispute his SD win over a 43 yr. old Hopkins, now lets see what he can do with a aging Roy Jones Jr. For his sake it would be wise to continue on and fight Chad Dawson(an up and coming young stallion like Pavlik) and expose the kid the way B-Hop did Kelly and then see what he has to offer a Froch or a Taylor then we can start with that ATG talk for Calzaghe. Are you not satisfied with him being an EXCELLENT fighter?

LOL yeah i guess am a hater also, I dont think Joe c is an ATG yet but he definitely is a HOF'er if that makes me a hater then am definitely one.

[The Gully Gad]

Bull****, Hopkins clearly lost the last 8 rounds of his fight with Joe. He even had to fake being hurt by a low blow to buy time enable him to finish the fight.

Agree Tunney that is bull****..
Hopkins lost that fight with Joe no amount of crying about it is gonna change anything...
Thats the only thing that nudges me with Hop.Just wish he'd be honest and say "yeh i lost that one" U know nothing to be ashamed of Joe outworked him.His undone all that anyway with that Pav win

[TheGreatA]

How do you define all time great?

I have a hard time saying anyone is an all time great until they're long retired.

[Sin City]

So Calzaghe fought the worst fight in a long time against Hopkins but still won.

Hopkins followed the loss with a schooling of the young, favoured undefeated Pavlik.

Even the yanks must now acknowledge. Joe Calzaghe is an ALL-TIME-GREAT!

ugh.. Calzaghe wasn't moving up ten pounds in weight to fight Nard.