Lets not be too hard on Kelly Pavlik

**Pantera2000** · 10-19-2008, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by vladimir303

Old warriors from the past lost alot of fights and just came back next month and started a new winning streak, destroying opponents. Besides nobody ever looked at Kelly and confused him for a unbeatable fighter.

HE DIDN'T GET EXPOSED, he just lost to a better figther. A more tricky fighter who studies his opponents and comes up with a strategy to beat them, unstead of just training and working on his abs and weight.

And that's Pavlik's biggest problems. He was doing alot of strength and conditioning training, lifting big tires and hitting the sledge hammer unstead of coming up with a strategy and preparing for what Hopkins had to offer stylistically.

Either way he will learn from this and come back better, at least the way he approaches a fight. Studying his opponent and coming up with a game plan. He also needs to milk that middleweight title as long as possible, keeping his weight low in between fights.

Kelly Pavlik could very well be the Diego Corrales of 160. Diego got schooled by Mayweather but he carved himself a nice legacy at 130/135 nonetheless with his heart and his size and power advantage over lightweights.

LETS NOT WRITE HIM OFF UNTIL HE FIGHTS ABRAHAM AND SHOWS US WHAT HE'S GOT.

I disagree. This was an outright embarrassement.
Pavlik never deserved to be in the same state as Hopkins, let alone the same ring. He was exposed, He was made to look like a fool.

**Vladimir303** · 10-19-2008, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by Pantera2000

I disagree. This was an outright embarrassement.
Pavlik never deserved to be in the same state as Hopkins, let alone the same ring. He was exposed, He was made to look like a fool.

I know he was dominated. I addressed all of that in the above.

Maybe you need to read what a thread starter writes before you disagree with him.

If you still disagree after that then we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

**Unknown Champ** · 10-19-2008, 03:56 AM

I like Kelly he is a stand up dude, but he got exposed, real bad.......

**-Antonio-** · 10-19-2008, 03:56 AM

Kelly can at least look at it this way. Hopkins beat Tito and Tarver just as bad.

**luv3s2sp00g3** · 10-19-2008, 03:56 AM

HE DIDN'T GET EXPOSED, he just lost to a better figther. A more tricky fighter who studies his opponents and comes up with a strategy to beat them, unstead of just training and working on his abs and weight.

Actually, I disagree. He was COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY EXPOSED. The hype machine that was built around him being this unstoppable KO machine has been destroyed tonight.

**Unknown Champ** · 10-19-2008, 03:58 AM

what he said

**C.Y.** · 10-19-2008, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by vladimir303

Old warriors from the past lost alot of fights and just came back next month and started a new winning streak, destroying opponents. Besides nobody ever looked at Kelly and confused him for a unbeatable fighter.

HE DIDN'T GET EXPOSED, he just lost to a better figther. A more tricky fighter who studies his opponents and comes up with a strategy to beat them, unstead of just training and working on his abs and weight.

And that's Pavlik's biggest problems. He was doing alot of strength and conditioning training, lifting big tires and hitting the sledge hammer unstead of coming up with a strategy and preparing for what Hopkins had to offer stylistically.

Either way he will learn from this and come back better, at least the way he approaches a fight. Studying his opponent and coming up with a game plan. He also needs to milk that middleweight title as long as possible, keeping his weight low in between fights.

Kelly Pavlik could very well be the Diego Corrales of 160. Diego got schooled by Mayweather but he carved himself a nice legacy at 130/135 nonetheless.....with his heart and his size and power advantage over lightweights. He was a great fighter.

LETS NOT WRITE HIM OFF UNTIL HE FIGHTS ABRAHAM AND SHOWS US WHAT HE'S GOT.

no **** that he got exposed.. i been telling people he's not that good of a fighter.. look at this resume.. he aint really done nothing.. he's one dimensional he a 1 to 2 punch fighter thats it.. there's no excuse he got destroyed by a 43 year old man and thats it.. kelly showed he has sorry character as well. he was throwing alot of illegal blows that the ref missed but it didnt matter he lost anyways.. all he is or was - was the great white hype and he got exposed

**Corizz** · 10-19-2008, 03:59 AM

Kelly got taken to school no doubt, but he took some mean punches. I didnt think he was going to last to long after the 2nd round. Guy can take a punch no doubt about it.

I have to respect that. After a while he knew he was just beat, but he just kept walking forward.

**-Antonio-** · 10-19-2008, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by C.Y.

no **** that he got exposed.. i been telling people he's not that good of a fighter.. look at this resume.. he aint really done nothing.. he's one dimensional he a 1 to 2 punch fighter thats it.. there's no excuse he got destroyed by a 43 year old man and thats it.. kelly showed he has sorry character as well. he was throwing alot of illegal blows that the ref missed but it didnt matter he lost anyways.. all he is or was - was the great white hype and he got exposed

How dare Pavlik hit low a couple times against Bernard Hopkins of all people right?

I dont like to throw around the word exposed, but that's what happened here. Still like I said earlier, Tarver and Tito got done the same way, so it's not as bad for Pavlik.

Lets not be too hard on Kelly Pavlik