Give credit to Jermain Taylor and Joe Calzaghe!!!

[Mr. Philadel]

I don't give credit to them.Hopkins beat taylor in the first fight and he beat joe but was robbed.

exactly what he said.

[ferocity]

Then how did they get 3 combined decisions against him?

You can praise Hopkins as a fighter all night long, and I'll admit he's a damn good one, but if he's twice the fighter as Taylor or Calzaghe he shouldn't have even been in the position to lose decisions to them in the first place. Stop sticking up for ****ty performances, even if they come from talented fighters. If he's that good, he should've stepped it up. The end.

This is what im talking about totally agree.

People make too many excuses for Hopkins losing to Taylor and Calzaghe, fact is they deserve credit.

[fightnews55]

Then how did they get 3 combined decisions against him?

You can praise Hopkins as a fighter all night long, and I'll admit he's a damn good one, but if he's twice the fighter as Taylor or Calzaghe he shouldn't have even been in the position to lose decisions to them in the first place. Stop sticking up for ****ty performances, even if they come from talented fighters. If he's that good, he should've stepped it up. The end.

He got robbed in all three fights and was well past his prime in all of them. This fight DOES NOT change that numb nuts.

[beez721]

These smaller men beat the bigger and great Bernard Hopkins. The old man beat a smaller man tonight at a big advantage weight but Jermain Taylor and Joe Calzaghe beat Hopkins at the weight Hopkins was at the time so get these men the credit they deserve. I should mention Calzaghe move up in weight to fight the naturally bigger man in Hopkins.

Wonder if Hopkins will fight the top dog in his weight class in Chad Dawson or is fighting someone in his weight class too much of a risk?

pav beat jt twice convincingly while hopkins lost both fights. just goes to show that pav aint the same fighter at 170 or he just lost it. weird

[beez721]

He got robbed in all three fights and was well past his prime in all of them. This fight DOES NOT change that numb nuts.

far from robbery. he just fell short in all 3. close fights

[dstew]

He got robbed in all three fights and was well past his prime in all of them. This fight DOES NOT change that numb nuts.

Actually, what Hopkins' performance against Pavlik DOES NOT change is that he had subpar performances in each of those fights.

You can't call two SDs and one UD in fights in which Hopkins was the less active, less productive man for 1/2 the fight ROBBERIES. Get a clue. If you leave a razor close fight in the hands of the judges, you take what you get.

You said Taylor or Calzaghe aren't half the fighters BHOP is. If that's the case, why was he in the position to lose decisions in the first place? Defend your statement.

[ferocity]

pav beat jt twice convincingly while hopkins lost both fights. just goes to show that pav aint the same fighter at 170 or he just lost it. weird

Great post and i wont disagree.

[Mr. Philadel]

This is what im talking about totally agree.

People make too many excuses for Hopkins losing to Taylor and Calzaghe, fact is they deserve credit.

if they win their upcoming fights then they'll get their due, but tonite its all about B-Hop! show the LEGEND a little bit more respect.....he just put on a boxing clinic and dominated the sports top p4p puncher for 12 one sided rounds

[warp1432]

I already gave credit to Calzaghe and barely any to Taylor. The fact is Hopkins has a good arguement for winning 2 of those fights (the second Taylor and the Calzaghe) fight, especially the second taylor fight. Not the first one. Just because Hopkins beat Taylor up a lot by the second half in the first fight does not mean he won it. He started to late.

The calzaghe fight could have easily gone the other way, but if people scored it closely for Calzaghe, then that's fine too.

Oh and the weight had nothing to do with this fight.

[ferocity]

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if they win their upcoming fights then they'll get their due, but tonite its all about B-Hop! show the LEGEND a little bit more respect.....he just put on a boxing clinic and dominated the sports top p4p puncher for 12 one sided rounds

Hopkins beat a smaller man. Theres only such much credit i can give him. Fight Chad Dawson and he shuts me up or Dawson shuts him up.