Shane Mosley vs. Andre Berto May Come About in 09

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    #31
    Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
    The slow start is just an excuse.

    I can say Williams started too fast.

    Same ****.

    Bottom line..Paul won that 12th round..Tony couldn't dig deep enuff to seize it.Not bad for a young guy in his first Title fight.Williams has more experience now and is using his height and reach better.

    Tony had to be forced into fighting him in the first place.The WBO threatened to strip him if he put off fighting Williams once more.

    That says a lot being that the WBO is VERY lenient when it comes to manditories.

    Margarito has accepted defeat and has moved in another direction.

    He is willing to SHARE the division with Williams rather than take it over outright..which is what Williams wants to do.

    Paul wants to be THE man.

    Tony just wants to be A man.
    I'm not saying it's not an excuse by Margarito, but like I said, an honest P-Will supporter has to wonder if it's mearly an excuse or if P-Will is just the better fighter.

    I was impressed with Williams that night, and gave him big props for coming out strong and taking that 12th round. I thought Margarito could've salvaged a draw by winning the final round (I don't remember the scores), but was impressed with the young challenger wanting it more and winning the 12th.

    A lot of fighters are forced to defend their belts against certain fighters, but choose to vacate their title instead. Margarito worked hard for that belt and didn't want to give it up that way. I don't think he viewed as being forced, but rather as his obligation as the WBO's champ.

    Either way, I too hope the rematch eventually happens and things get cleared up in the division.

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    • Bad_Barracuda
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      #32
      Originally posted by Contenders
      Isn't it the other way around? Mosely said HE wasn't ready for Margarito...I believe it was after his fight with Jose Luis Cruz, on the undercard of Barrera-Peden.

      Tony's wife ain't his manager by the way.
      Tony sure as hell didn't call out Shane(or Forrest) when he was Champion at 147..He was quiet as a mouse.

      Shane was looking for fights back in 00 or 01 and Tony's camp said he ain't ready.

      Anybody that'll fight Vernon Forrest TWICE gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
        Tony sure as hell didn't call out Shane(or Forrest) when he was Champion at 147..He was quiet as a mouse.

        Shane was looking for fights back in 00 or 01 and Tony's camp said he ain't ready.

        Anybody that'll fight Vernon Forrest TWICE gets the benefit of the doubt from me.
        I might need to look it up, but I don't think Tony won his belt until 2002 or something. Margarito DID call out Shane though, I believe it started in 2005...he was also calling out Zab Judah, who was the undisputed champ around that time. In fact, even Zab's team said after their win against Cosme Rivera that Margarito was in their plans...nothing ever happened though.

        Margartio did try to get big-name fights, things just weren't happening for him back then. You're right about Forrest though, I don't recall Margarito ever calling him out. When was Forrest champ at 147 though???

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          #34
          Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
          Anybody that'll fight Vernon Forrest TWICE gets the benefit of the doubt from me.
          Shane has always been one of my favorite fighters by the way.

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            #35
            Berto and Mosley are very similiar, while Mosley has a better chin I think Berto has more power, speed and youth. They both got a lacky defense, althought Berto is improving fast.
            I'm taking Berto.

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            • Zocalo
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              #36
              I don't think Mosley should be fighting anymore. He didn't look good in his last fight. I would actually favor Berto. Each and every day Berto gets closer to his prime and Mosley just keeps slipping.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
                Tony sure as hell didn't call out Shane(or Forrest) when he was Champion at 147..He was quiet as a mouse.

                Shane was looking for fights back in 00 or 01 and Tony's camp said he ain't ready.

                Anybody that'll fight Vernon Forrest TWICE gets the benefit of the doubt from me.
                ****ing liar mosley was offered 8 million and turned it down. you dont know ****, you really are a terrible poster. just die.

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                  #38
                  I thought Collazo was going to fight Berto. I would rather see Collazo fight Berto instead of Mosely. Mosely fought Mayorga recently where as Collazo has been sitting on the sidelines for quite sometime.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Good Barracuda
                    ****ing liar mosley was offered 8 million and turned it down. you dont know ****, you really are a terrible poster. just die.
                    I think Good Baracuda vs Bad Baracuda would be a natural for the Thunderdome.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Floyd R
                      I thought Collazo was going to fight Berto. I would rather see Collazo fight Berto instead of Mosely. Mosely fought Mayorga recently where as Collazo has been sitting on the sidelines for quite sometime.

                      Collazo will have to be satisfactorily compenstated for the Mosley fight to happen.

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