RJJ: It took almost 3 years to get my body right

[Ray*]

I still dont see how RJJ would win this fight, Am not fooled by his "win" over Tito who has been out of boxing for a while.

[mspiegelo]

You goin to AC? I'll be down there as well. And I'll definitely be in the Garden for this one.

ill be in AC with my bro (posts as Spiegelo). should be good. If Pavlik wins, or god forbid, knocks Hopkins out, it may be a dismal trip home...

I'm still praying to find a way to go see Roy at the garden- the king's comeback.

in regards to the thread topic, I have said this all along. When someone has such a low body fat composition as Roy (about 5% around the time of the Ruiz Fight), losing 25 pounds is a dangerous task. You have to lose pure muscle mass. You basically have to become weaker and build yourself back up, losing every area that must be developed to succeed in the ring: strength, power, stamina, speed, reflexes, etc.

Not only was it absolutely crazy for him to fight Tarver the FIRST time when Roy managed to grind out a victory, but it was ludicrous to give Tarver a rematch so soon after he had completely ruined his body, and then INSANE to give Glen Johnson a rematch merely 4 months after he had been knocked out for the first time, not only for physiological and neurological reasons, but for psychological reasons as well... That being said, Roy looked better than he had in years against Tito, and I know he will get up for Calzaghe. I can't wait!

[IMDAZED]

ill be in AC with my bro (posts as Spiegelo). should be good. If Pavlik wins, or god forbid, knocks Hopkins out, it may be a dismal trip home...

I'm still praying to find a way to go see Roy at the garden- the king's comeback.

in regards to the thread topic, I have said this all along. When someone has such a low body fat composition as Roy (about 5% around the time of the Ruiz Fight), losing 25 pounds is a dangerous task. You have to lose pure muscle mass. You basically have to become weaker and build yourself back up, losing every area that must be developed to succeed in the ring: strength, power, stamina, speed, reflexes, etc.

Not only was it absolutely crazy for him to fight Tarver the FIRST time when Roy managed to grind out a victory, but it was ludicrous to give Tarver a rematch so soon after he had completely ruined his body, and then INSANE to give Glen Johnson a rematch merely 4 months after he had been knocked out for the first time, not only for physiological and neurological reasons, but for psychological reasons as well... That being said, Roy looked better than he had in years against Tito, and I know he will get up for Calzaghe. I can't wait!

nice - would be funny if we had a boxingscene reunion or something.

I actually think Jones looked better against Hanshaw. I was very, very impressed by that performance, particularly the way he matched Hanshaw's stamina and work rate late in the fight and also retained his speed, power and combinations. I never once felt Jones was threatened in there - in fact, it seemed he was more bent on tinkering on some new things and ironing out kinks than he was beating Hanshaw.

I'm not too sure what to make of the Tito fight except he seems rusty. And probably will be in the early rounds against Calzaghe. But Alton Merkerson is one who has always been brutally honest about Roy and his decline. If his recent comments are an indicator, Jones will have done everything he could possibly do to be absolutely 100%, in tip-top shape for this one.

[Kris Silver]

nice - would be funny if we had a boxingscene reunion or something.

I actually think Jones looked better against Hanshaw. I was very, very impressed by that performance, particularly the way he matched Hanshaw's stamina and work rate late in the fight and also retained his speed, power and combinations. I never once felt Jones was threatened in there - in fact, it seemed he was more bent on tinkering on some new things and ironing out kinks than he was beating Hanshaw.

I'm not too sure what to make of the Tito fight except he seems rusty. And probably will be in the early rounds against Calzaghe. But Alton Merkerson is one who has always been brutally honest about Roy and his decline. If his recent comments are an indicator, Jones will have done everything he could possibly do to be absolutely 100%, in tip-top shape for this one.

Yeh he has looked to be trying to gain the most out of the fights them selves, the ring time, experience, as opposed to anything else. He still hurt Tito quite a lot though, with one arm ****ed I find that fairly impressive. It'd be good to see Tito fight once more as I think he'd fair reasonably. Roy's gona be extra 110% fit for this fight, I think he realises he's built back up to something and needs to stamp down an effective intelligent game plan down on Calzaghe, with ultimately quicker hands and a better boxing brain in many ways.

I still see a close but clear UD with one score card dodgey, and just wonder if people will really accept Roy performed well just because he loses.

[larryx]

i believe him 100 percent..you can see the improvement fight by fight...mr untouchable is back..trust me calzaghe is getting ktfo thats why roy wanted the fight so bad

[larryx]

he didnt wanna ko tito,hansaw,or the prince he was fighting for rounds thats why he let hanshaw and tito off the hook when he had them hurt..

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Yeh he has looked to be trying to gain the most out of the fights them selves, the ring time, experience, as opposed to anything else. He still hurt Tito quite a lot though, with one arm ****ed I find that fairly impressive. It'd be good to see Tito fight once more as I think he'd fair reasonably. Roy's gona be extra 110% fit for this fight, I think he realises he's built back up to something and needs to stamp down an effective intelligent game plan down on Calzaghe, with ultimately quicker hands and a better boxing brain in many ways.

I still see a close but clear UD with one score card dodgey, and just wonder if people will really accept Roy performed well just because he loses.

Performing well and losing...why would people not accept that?

[Kris Silver]

Performing well and losing...why would people not accept that?

Some people will undoubtedly say Roy losing is confirmation he is totally shot, just to undermine the win for Joe. It always happens with fighters post 35, it's just a matter of how many people take that view on this fight. All signs suggest a lot.

Hopkins was spoken highly of by a lot of people pre Calzaghe, then suddenly most people says he's totally shot and the loss was proof. Not true, was a good performance whilst losing, same as Roy will do.

[larryx]

Some people will undoubtedly say Roy losing is confirmation he is totally shot, just to undermine the win for Joe. It always happens with fighters post 35, it's just a matter of how many people take that view on this fight. All signs suggest a lot.

Hopkins was spoken highly of by a lot of people pre Calzaghe, then suddenly most people says he's totally shot and the loss was proof. Not true, was a good performance whilst losing, same as Roy will do.

please stop acting like joe is guaranteed to win..this is a pick em fight

[IMDAZED]

Some people will undoubtedly say Roy losing is confirmation he is totally shot, just to undermine the win for Joe. It always happens with fighters post 35, it's just a matter of how many people take that view on this fight. All signs suggest a lot.

Hopkins was spoken highly of by a lot of people pre Calzaghe, then suddenly most people says he's totally shot and the loss was proof. Not true, was a good performance whilst losing, same as Roy will do.

Yeah but people are allowed to exercise hindsight. That's usually the best way to see things.

And I think performing well isn't an indicator of much. Jones has lost a lot of steam and I think people are already saying that - he is simply VERY far away from the fighter he was in his prime. That said, he was so freaking good that people STILL give him a shot to win, others believe he's too far gone. No need for hindsight there.