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  • Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
    Next, no, I didn't catch it...it is an internet show?? How did Matt do?
    Yes it's an Internet show, unfortunately I've been told by the heads here that I cannot mention it, but if you hit me up in a PM with your e-mail I'll send you a link to our page.

    He did well, that same show we had live interviews with Sugar Ray Leonard and Jean Pascal as well. Ray was great, Pascal kind of ****** because his english wasn't good but it was still good to have him on, he's one of the best fighters in or around 175 I think. And Matt did well, he seemed well spoken and knew exactly what he wanted to accomplish in regards to the sport. Your name was brought up by one of my co-hosts, as well, since the ******* stole my question before I could ask Matt myself haha.

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    • Originally posted by NeXt In Line View Post
      Yes it's an Internet show, unfortunately I've been told by the heads here that I cannot mention it, but if you hit me up in a PM with your e-mail I'll send you a link to our page.

      He did well, that same show we had live interviews with Sugar Ray Leonard and Jean Pascal as well. Ray was great, Pascal kind of ****** because his english wasn't good but it was still good to have him on, he's one of the best fighters in or around 175 I think. And Matt did well, he seemed well spoken and knew exactly what he wanted to accomplish in regards to the sport. Your name was brought up by one of my co-hosts, as well, since the ******* stole my question before I could ask Matt myself haha.
      LOL ok, I hope he said something cool about me LOL...I have sparred with Pascal in Montreal before...very fast handed, tough kid, etc etc...I speak to him sometimes on the internet here, too...cool guy...he was IMPRESSIVE against Diaconou I thought...

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      • John,after retiring,after a while(6 months-a year) did you like most fighters feel the urge you wanna comeback,that you have unfinished business?

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        • Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
          Well, not step by step, but give us a short example of what you're talkin' about.

          Alot of us don't get this kind of tutorial in our own gyms, ICE. The members on this site are on here for a reason, we're students of the game and we just want to soak it all in.

          Thanks again, champ.

          Well, you know, it's like if you see a fight and two guys are standing there looking at each other, feinting etc...not punching a lot...it may be boring but...they are working their games, they are working their skills, setting each other up...there are times to punch and times to feint and times to not punch...it takes skills and the recognition of boxing strategy to execute these type things without getting caught (or as RJ often says, "It's all in the feet") ...there are also times while fighting on the inside when you see a Mayweather or a Jones suddenly explode with a volley of punches and it appears that they were just thrown out there out of reflex or instinct or whatever but the fact is that they are constantly looking at their opponents feet, at their shoulders, at their posture, etc etc...waiting for the EXACT moment when to let those shots fly and they throw them at vulnerable areas, too...it looks spectacular but it definitely isn't just a blind volley of shots, it's usually by design...they just are so fluid and fast and accurate that it looks "natural"... its usually by design, though...they have the knowledge to know where and when to throw..and, again, they use their opponents foot position and shoulder position to decide instantly when to do these things...like a spectacular ball handler in basketball has fluidity and speed but he also has a great knowledge of the game and where the opposing players are situated on the court, etc...
          Last edited by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY; 09-23-2009, 10:30 PM.

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          • Well, you know, it's like if you see a fight and two guys are standing there looking at each other, feinting etc...not punching a lot...it may be boring but...they are working their games, they are working their skills, setting each other up...there are times to punch and times to feint and times to not punch[/size]

            I hear ya Ice, but, there have been fights out there, that I don't think it was a chess match going on, but, more of, two fighters showing too much respect and it ends up being a real snoozer. I mean, at the end of the day, ya gotta start swinging at each other, right.


            their opponent feet, at their shoulders, at their posture

            You mentioned the bodyparts/posture, but what clues should we be looking for when looking at the opponents feet, shoulders or posture?

            they iuse their opponents foot piosition and shoulder position to decide instantly when to do these things. Can you give us a short basic example on what clues I'm looking for regarding foot and shoulder positioning

            Thanks Mr Scully.


            re: Floyd Jr. It's obvious, the man is a great athlete, with a great boxing mind. Yet, it seems for someone who is as great as he is, he simply doesn't do enough inside that squared circle.

            Remember RJJ in his prime, us watching him let go of his sizzling combinations, I'm not asking Floyd to change his style, but man, put some f**kin' work in. Are you with me ICE?
            Last edited by We want Floyd; 09-23-2009, 09:42 PM.

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            • Yea, I mean, I am the first to say that RJ was much more explosive and when he let go, he LET GO with sizzling power shots...Floyd could be explosive sure but it's hard to argue with his success and, also, sometimes I think guys can get very complacent and when not put in a tough spot where there is a real fear of losing they don't feel an innate sense of urgency to really let loose so they have nothing pressing to react to...when he was faced with a dangerous guy in Corrales, though, he more than let it all hang out...
              Last edited by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY; 09-23-2009, 10:42 PM.

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              • Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
                Yea, I mean, I am the first to say that RJ was much more explosive and when he let go, he LET GO with sizzling power shots...Floyd could be explosive sure but its hard to argue with his success and, also, sometimes I think guys can get very complacent and when not put in a tough spot where there is fear of losing they dont feel an innate sense of urgency to really let loose...
                Well, there's only one person to blame for that, right?


                And please Ice, I want to know exactly what to look for when it comes to the whole foot/shoulder positioning and posture. I'd like to give it a shot in my next session.

                Here's what I usually look at when I'm sparring, I create an imaginary cross between the shoulders and chest. I try not to put too much of my focus on the hands, so I won't fall for the feints(I keep the opponents hands in my pheripheral vision.

                The other thing I look at is their hips, it gives me a heads up, like if they're leaning one way, it means they're probably gonna throw a hook or an uppercut, and I also target the same side they're leaning towards. With this, I basically am able to beat 'em to the punch.

                The draw back with focusing on the hips too much though is, I get surprised with an uppercut or with the experience fighters, they know how to bluff.

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                • Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
                  Well, there's only one person to blame for that, right?

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                  Well, it's not always as simple as just deciding to not be complacent in the ring...NOTHING in the ring is so simple, otherwise everyone would just be the best they can be each and every time out...circumstances, mental and physical, dictate everything...

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                  • Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post

                    And please Ice, I want to know exactly what to look for when it comes to the whole foot/shoulder positioning and posture. I'd like to give it a shot in my next session.
                    Well, I mean, it's hard to explain her eon a message board without seeing you in person but, basically, its the concept of balance and positioning and the ability to throw punches from certain positions. For example, an extreme example, take a baseball player for example...a pitcher...if he is pitching to A-Rod and A-Rod is standing at home plate with one foot off the ground and the other foot up on his toes, well, the pitcher knows that there is absolutely no way in the world that A-Rod in that position could get enough juice into a swing to hit it any length at all....the pitcher could throw a fastball right over the plate without fear of getting blasted for a dinger...you get A-Rod or any top shelf hitter and get him all set to go, feet planted, back feet dug in, bat up, eyes fixed, now the pitcher has to be much more careful and selecrtive with his pitches...same concept with boxing...you watch your opponets feet and upper body position and try to punch when he is in a position that wouldnt allow for him to retaliate as quickly as he would need to...

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                    • Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                      Mayweather vs Pacquiao, incase it ever wen't down, who you got?
                      I am curious of this too Iceman...

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