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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #41
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    it was basically after the Tua left hook in round 11 that Ike went insane. that punch changed his life. I think Ike even said that he never felt right after that punch
    after the tua fight , ike constantly complained of headaches and migraines for months. he had to have several catscans but nothing showed. i've read several of his handlers state that all his odd behavior was AFTER the tua fight. it could all be just talk but interesting nonetheless. he did take a lot of punishment in the tua fight. a lot more than tua received...... hence why TUA ****ING WON THAT FIGHT!

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    • kadyo's
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      #42
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      after the tua fight , ike constantly complained of headaches and migraines for months. he had to have several catscans but nothing showed. i've read several of his handlers state that all his odd behavior was AFTER the tua fight. it could all be just talk but interesting nonetheless. he did take a lot of punishment in the tua fight. a lot more than tua received...... hence why TUA ****ING WON THAT FIGHT!
      Don't you know any other fighter other than tua?

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      • KostyaTszyu44
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        #43
        Originally posted by mspiegelo
        Guys who for one reason or another couldn't pull it together mentally or physically to reach their immense potential as fighters...

        1. Ike Ibeabuchi (imprisonment and mental instability)

        2. Oliver Mccall (mental instability and well... crack!)

        3. Michael Grant (china chin, perhaps was rushed into a championship fight to soon)

        4. Golota (huge mental problems, can anyone say Golota-Bowe I and II?!?)

        5. David Tua (never seemed to hone his skills in the ring to advance his arsenal past just being a contender with devestating punching power.

        6. Tye Fields (because its fuc.king funny!)

        7. James Toney (doesn't do the neccessary roadwork/strength training to get his body in great shape. Imagine how good he would have been if he was in excellent condition with his skills!)

        8. Dominick Guinn (was touted as the next great heavyweight until he lost a bunch of stinkers, including getting dominated by Toney)

        9. Tommy Gun Morrison (never could get it done on the grand stage. What a left hook though)

        10. Other. Please Explain
        i wouldnt put toney in there, he doesnt really count as a wasted talent since he was already a three weight champ before coming to HW

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #44
          Originally posted by kadyo
          Don't you know any other fighter other than tua?
          what do you mean?

          i talk about ruiz , rahman , oquendo , izon , ibeabuchi , moorer , maskaev , nicholson , obed , etc. all the time.

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          • slicksouthpaw16
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            #45
            Ike had the potential to be a dominate champion, but his craziness cost him big time. Now even if he was to get out of jail, his prime years are pretty much over and i doubt he could get his body to the stage it was before he got in.

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            • Davros?
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              #46
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              he did take a lot of punishment in the tua fight. a lot more than tua received...... hence why TUA ****ING WON THAT FIGHT!
              maybe i had Ike by 1 point it was a close fight.

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              • Derranged
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                #47
                Boew and Golota. As for Tua, I dont really think he had a great deal of talent, just a hard chin and a hard punch. He was pretty much outboxed in most of his big name fights....

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                • !! Anorak
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                  #48
                  Danny Williams. Beating Tyson in his 88 prime and retiring Vitali for four years was never enough.

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                  • MANGLER
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                    #49
                    Tyson 4 sho. Not that he still didn't become a legend wit his prime years, but dude was on his way to bein one of the best ever til he fell apart.

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                    • paul750
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                      #50
                      Ibeabuchi had all the tools to be an exceptional heavyweight, whereas Tua always had problems with his boxing fundamentals, and that would have always given him [Tua] problems regardless of dedication. Golota showed he had a vulnerable chin and lacked heart in the ring, so there's a couple of qualities out the window. McCall had, and still has one of the most incredible chins in boxing history, coupled with good power. But McCall's trouble has always been his problems against good boxers, although he's always been very dangerous and a good counter puncher.Ibeabuchi only had something like 16 fights when he fought Tua, and by the time he fought Byrd he had shown improvements with head movement and patience. I don't think anyone else on the list ticks all the boxes like Ike does. In fact, not many boxers period [certainly not in the heavyweight division], tick almost every box like that. Handspeed, power, high punch output, good chin, decent jab, and heart. He was young and had lots of time to improve further.

                      I think out of them all, Ike had all the tools needed in the ring, to become an exceptional heavyweight.

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