Did Sam Peter lose that fight before he entered the ring? Did he even try?

[The Hammer]

Poor Sam was trying his best, but he wasn't able to deal with Vitali's persistant, quick, hard, accurate punches. Everytime he would try to mount an attack, he was peppered by hard jabs and hooks, keeping him at bay.

[Chase8400]

EVERYBODY who fights Vitali underestimates him, Peter was no exception. He tried, he just couldn't find a way in past Vitali's left. Same thing that's happened to nearly everyone else who's been in the ring with him. They see his clumsy-looking style and think "I can knock this guy right the **** out", and when they finally get in the ring with him, they realize getting close enough to actually get the job done is something that just can't be done unless you have comparable size, reach, and speed. Sanders had the best chance, but he was in horrible condition, and was finished after just a few rounds. Lewis was the only one who did any serious harm, and even that was on the lucky side; watch how the cut was opened...the right hand didn't land quite flush, glanced off, and ripped the brow open. Probaly wouldn't have happened again if they'd fought another 5 times, but once was enough. The damage to Vitali's lip and the bruising and cuts under the eye were cause mostly by Lewis' head/dreads.

Agreed, everyone always ignores how the cuts opened up. The punches did not start the cuts, only made them way worse. Lewis' gloves and head were all over Vitali in that fight prior to those cuts starting. If they fought again, Vitali would have KO'd Lennox. That's why he retired. Period.

[Mr. Ryan]

That's why I said he should have punched Vitali at the weigh-in. Being classy won't win you anything, get ****** on him.

[Mr. Ryan]

The cut was caused by a punch, live with it LOL

[Squabbles94806]

Yes, it did look like Peter had a hard time getting past Vitali's jab.

Vitali was just keeping him away and stickin him. Excatly what he's supposed to do against a smalled powerful boxer.

Props to Klitschko's Trunks and shoes

[STEELHEAD]

It seemed to me that Sam was so lost in terms of the pre-fight psychological war that he didn't even really try to win that fight. He just accepted defeat before it even came. I've never seen him so lethargic or dispassionate. The thing a lot of people enjoyed about Sam was his fire, his anger. Yet, in the scenario where he should have been the most angry, he seemed to look at Vitali and lay down before finding a way out with the open scoring after the 8th.

I'm not discrediting Vitali, let's make that clear. He beats any version of Sam. What I am wondering here is if it seemed to everyone else that Sam seemed to know this and was just bracing for the inevitable in the ring. Did he seem not to try or really care to anyone else?

a little known fact is that the ebony porky pig has been running his own training camp ruling by intimidation.
and it showed! weighing in at 253 probably closer to 270 fight night.
vita had plenty of help from peter in his win!

[Mr. Philadel]

It seemed to me that Sam was so lost in terms of the pre-fight psychological war that he didn't even really try to win that fight. He just accepted defeat before it even came. I've never seen him so lethargic or dispassionate. The thing a lot of people enjoyed about Sam was his fire, his anger. Yet, in the scenario where he should have been the most angry, he seemed to look at Vitali and lay down before finding a way out with the open scoring after the 8th.

I'm not discrediting Vitali, let's make that clear. He beats any version of Sam. What I am wondering here is if it seemed to everyone else that Sam seemed to know this and was just bracing for the inevitable in the ring. Did he seem not to try or really care to anyone else?

Exactly.......Peter NEVER had an idea on how to beat Vitali. He was just all wrong mentally for this fight!

[Chase8400]

The cut was caused by a punch, live with it LOL

Hey man, have you seen the fight? I've watched it several times and the cut above the eye was'nt started by a punch. Lennox was all over him. The stoppage was good based on the events, but Vitali should have got a rematch and did'nt. He would have spanked Lennox if it happened.