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  • AntonTheMeh
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    #21
    Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
    I think cotto can beat margarito in a re-match but it would consist of him hittin and running! So much that it would bring his stock down in the amount of moving he would have to do. Plus he tried that the first fight and didn't really work. I think margarito beats him everytime!!
    what do you think of the valentines day massacre? robinson vs lamotta?
    was that the stratagy of a *****?you can't win a fight solely on trying to match wills.that's just dumb.you should know that, you're a fighter.

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    • The Surgeon
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      #22
      Originally posted by Pollo Boricua
      I know some people here will insult me for saying this but the only guy that should scare Cotto in a fight in 147 is called Paul Williams because he has a lil punch, is way taller, he can box, is a lil fast etc. I don't mention Margarito because Cotto already saw (and closely jajajaja) what Tony is about and if he is as intelligent as he is supposed to (he studied to become a teacher), he should already know what to do to beat Tony, that is called: Hit and Run for your life!!!! Arriba Cotto Carajo!!!!!!!!
      Really? Hadnt heard that before about Miguel studing to be a teacher

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      • The_Italian
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Surgeon
        I know Cotto has a lot of haters or detractors but this question is aimed at his fans and the people who rate him highly.

        Who do u think beats cotto? Or even better which fight at WW worrys u the most as a Cotto fan?

        A Rematch with the only man to have beaten him and reigning champ Antonio Margarito?

        Ageing veteren Shane Mosley who some feel one their first duel?

        The super lanky freak of nature Paul Williams who has apparently found his punch?

        The Thunderous punching Kermit Cintron?

        The Young stud with the fast hands, untested Andre Berto?

        Or someone else at the weight, discuss....
        i wouldnt call myself a fan of cotto but i can answer without bias...

        i think the person who would give cotto most problems is margarito due to his chin and fighting style...its too much...for majority of the fighters at 147, 140, and 154.

        for cotto to win a rematch against margarito would be probably the hardest win he could ever earn in the ring.

        beyond that a floyd mayweather would be cotto's SECOND toughest fight...yes...SECOND...not saying margarito is p4p better than floyd...its just the fighting style...it would be easier on cotto to fight floyd than margarito since floyd isnt as big of a puncher at 147 and due to the fact floyd chooses to BOX cotto rather than hunt him down and pound away like margarito.

        outside of those two fighters there isnt anyone i would favor over cotto at this point in time.

        at 147
        cintron - cotto stops him within 11.
        berto - cotto wins a UD
        williams - cotto wins a split decision.

        cotto is a hybrid (in my opinion) of a crafty boxer (we seen this in the first half of the fight against margarito and in the mosley fight) and a big power puncher...he's one of the premier body punchers of current times and can really put a hurting on you. he's not a one punch knockout artist but over the span of 12 rounds if he gets enough clean punches in he will make you quit.

        his biggest flaw is defense (as we seen against margarito) he seemed to not have an answer to keep margarito away...he couldnt tie up on the inside to get a break...he couldnt control the speed of the fight...margarito pretty much determined the pace of the fight after the 6th-7th round.

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        • Mojita
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          #24
          Paul Williams cause of his reach.

          Margarito will lose in June.

          i'm done here.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The_Italian
            i wouldnt call myself a fan of cotto but i can answer without bias...

            i think the person who would give cotto most problems is margarito due to his chin and fighting style...its too much...for majority of the fighters at 147, 140, and 154.

            for cotto to win a rematch against margarito would be probably the hardest win he could ever earn in the ring.

            beyond that a floyd mayweather would be cotto's SECOND toughest fight...yes...SECOND...not saying margarito is p4p better than floyd...its just the fighting style...it would be easier on cotto to fight floyd than margarito since floyd isnt as big of a puncher at 147 and due to the fact floyd chooses to BOX cotto rather than hunt him down and pound away like margarito.

            outside of those two fighters there isnt anyone i would favor over cotto at this point in time.

            at 147
            cintron - cotto stops him within 11.
            berto - cotto wins a UD
            williams - cotto wins a split decision.

            cotto is a hybrid (in my opinion) of a crafty boxer (we seen this in the first half of the fight against margarito and in the mosley fight) and a big power puncher...he's one of the premier body punchers of current times and can really put a hurting on you. he's not a one punch knockout artist but over the span of 12 rounds if he gets enough clean punches in he will make you quit.

            his biggest flaw is defense (as we seen against margarito) he seemed to not have an answer to keep margarito away...he couldnt tie up on the inside to get a break...he couldnt control the speed of the fight...margarito pretty much determined the pace of the fight after the 6th-7th round.
            very well put.a agree with everything you said.

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            • ANDROID_DOES
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              #26
              Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
              what do you think of the valentines day massacre? robinson vs lamotta?
              was that the stratagy of a *****?you can't win a fight solely on trying to match wills.that's just dumb.you should know that, you're a fighter.
              that fight was 30years before i was born never seen it so can't respond to that. My point is cotto tried to out skill Marg but could not sustain that due to the pressure and body work marg was landing. In order for cotto to sustain what he did in the first part of the fight he would have to move even more than what he did in the first fight and it would be ugly and i know as much as cotto has a game plan it all changes once you get hit and your natural instincts take over and make you fight back and forget your plan. Cotto was forced to fight back and I feel it would be the same story in the rematch.

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                #27
                Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                that fight was 30years before i was born never seen it so can't respond to that. My point is cotto tried to out skill Marg but could not sustain that due to the pressure and body work marg was landing. In order for cotto to sustain what he did in the first part of the fight he would have to move even more than what he did in the first fight and it would be ugly and i know as much as cotto has a game plan it all changes once you get hit and your natural instincts take over and make you fight back and forget your plan. Cotto was forced to fight back and I feel it would be the same story in the rematch.
                you HAVE to watch that fight.essentially what ray did to lamotta that's what cotto tried to do.he pretty much just spent too much of himself in the beginning.ray just tried to throw his jab and let lamotta spend himself.and cotto has always been a decent ring general.just so happens the fights everybody's seen are the one's where as the slightly bigger guy he tried to use that to his advantage.
                Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 10-13-2008, 03:12 PM.

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                • Pollo Boricua
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Surgeon
                  Really? Hadnt heard that before about Miguel studing to be a teacher
                  Well yeah, he started but hasn't finished. I remember when he started boxing as a pro that he took his kids to college with him and everyone in the university would go to his fights etc.

                  Thats why I admire him as a boxer and as a person. Many boricua fans have already turned their back on him because of the loss to Margo, but I'm a real Cotto fan!!!
                  Last edited by Pollo Boricua; 10-13-2008, 03:10 PM.

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                  • The_Italian
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
                    very well put.a agree with everything you said.
                    i just call it like i see it.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The_Italian
                      i wouldnt call myself a fan of cotto but i can answer without bias...

                      i think the person who would give cotto most problems is margarito due to his chin and fighting style...its too much...for majority of the fighters at 147, 140, and 154.

                      for cotto to win a rematch against margarito would be probably the hardest win he could ever earn in the ring.

                      beyond that a floyd mayweather would be cotto's SECOND toughest fight...yes...SECOND...not saying margarito is p4p better than floyd...its just the fighting style...it would be easier on cotto to fight floyd than margarito since floyd isnt as big of a puncher at 147 and due to the fact floyd chooses to BOX cotto rather than hunt him down and pound away like margarito.

                      outside of those two fighters there isnt anyone i would favor over cotto at this point in time.

                      at 147
                      cintron - cotto stops him within 11.
                      berto - cotto wins a UD
                      williams - cotto wins a split decision.

                      cotto is a hybrid (in my opinion) of a crafty boxer (we seen this in the first half of the fight against margarito and in the mosley fight) and a big power puncher...he's one of the premier body punchers of current times and can really put a hurting on you. he's not a one punch knockout artist but over the span of 12 rounds if he gets enough clean punches in he will make you quit.

                      his biggest flaw is defense (as we seen against margarito) he seemed to not have an answer to keep margarito away...he couldnt tie up on the inside to get a break...he couldnt control the speed of the fight...margarito pretty much determined the pace of the fight after the 6th-7th round.
                      great post man

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