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  • MJ406
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    #11
    Originally posted by neils7147933
    Hopkins had all but the WBO, then De La hoya won the WBO from Sturm and then he had all 4, then Taylor took all 4 from him

    It's a unification bout, but it's not an undisputed champ to me as long as Montiel has that fourth major belt...
    well if having WBA, WBC, IBF = undisputed according to boxing terms (since the WBO didn't come onto the scene till 1989)

    isn't having all 4 considered being Super Champion?

    **I thought there was another name for a champion that has all the 4 recognized belts .. can anyone clarify .. thanks.

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    • VanesBoxing
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      #12
      Originally posted by MJ406
      well if having WBA, WBC, IBF = undisputed according to boxing terms (since the WBO didn't come onto the scene till 1989)

      isn't having all 4 considered being Super Champion?

      **I thought there was another name for a champion that has all the 4 recognized belts .. can anyone clarify .. thanks.
      no i agree that you need all 4 to be undisputed/linear champ...


      this fight still makes history since no 3 belts have ever been unified at Super Flyweight.

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      • lparm
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        #13
        Originally posted by neils7147933
        Hopkins had all but the WBO, then De La hoya won the WBO from Sturm and then he had all 4, then Taylor took all 4 from him

        It's a unification bout, but it's not an undisputed champ to me as long as Montiel has that fourth major belt...
        Seriously??? Neils to you it might not be the undisputed championship but to most fans and more importantly to the general public, the winner can claim the undisputed title and no amount of paper titles Montiel has will change that opinion. Historically the WBC, WBA, IBF have been the 3 major belts. Tyson held all 3 and he was undisputed no one was saying that Italian paper champ had a real claim during his reign. When Hopkins unified all 3 major titles he was called undisputed, when Winky and Tszyu and even RJJ had the 3 major belts they undisputed. See my point here? The WBO still isn't seen as being necessary for a fighter to be undisputed so long as the fighter has the 3 older more established belts.

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        • boxingsmash69
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          #14
          Originally posted by lparm
          Seriously??? Neils to you it might not be the undisputed championship but to most fans and more importantly to the general public, the winner can claim the undisputed title and no amount of paper titles Montiel has will change that opinion. Historically the WBC, WBA, IBF have been the 3 major belts. Tyson held all 3 and he was undisputed no one was saying that Italian paper champ had a real claim during his reign. When Hopkins unified all 3 major titles he was called undisputed, when Winky and Tszyu and even RJJ had the 3 major belts they undisputed. See my point here? The WBO still isn't seen as being necessary for a fighter to be undisputed so long as the fighter has the 3 older more established belts.
          Nate Campbell holds the WBA/IBF/WBO lightweight belts, but I dont remember if he is referred to as Undisputed, or I think i did, I don't know?

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          • mrlopez
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            #15
            Mijares by TKO, Darchinyan throws too many wide punches and Mijares will wait and counter thant punks haymakers....Darch isnt on Mijares level........

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            • -MAKAVELLI-
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              #16
              classic brawler vs boxer matchup....should be a good one

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              • neils7147933
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                #17
                Originally posted by lparm
                Seriously??? Neils to you it might not be the undisputed championship but to most fans and more importantly to the general public, the winner can claim the undisputed title and no amount of paper titles Montiel has will change that opinion. Historically the WBC, WBA, IBF have been the 3 major belts. Tyson held all 3 and he was undisputed no one was saying that Italian paper champ had a real claim during his reign. When Hopkins unified all 3 major titles he was called undisputed, when Winky and Tszyu and even RJJ had the 3 major belts they undisputed. See my point here? The WBO still isn't seen as being necessary for a fighter to be undisputed so long as the fighter has the 3 older more established belts.
                The WBA isn't what it used to be...I'd rather hold the other 3

                Also, holding alphabet titles isn't necessary to be "undisputed" to the boxing public. Tarver and Johnson were only fighting for the IBO that last fight and anyone who knew anything about boxing called it the light heavyweight title.

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                  #18
                  whatever at least mijares will win the 3 titles one by one
                  unlike campbell who just took them from diaz
                  plus the wbo is the worst of the 4 alphabets some people dont even consider the wbo a world championship

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                  • VanesBoxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Makavelli
                    classic brawler vs boxer matchup....should be a good one
                    ya man...

                    this will be a hugeeee fight and very fun to watch. CANT WAIT

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VanesBoxing
                      ya man...

                      this will be a hugeeee fight and very fun to watch. CANT WAIT
                      What's the undercard look like?

                      Showtime is showing Dirrell, boxrec isn't

                      Boxrec makes it look like a PPV card with Vanes, JCC-Vanda, Arce, Donaire all on the undercard...

                      is boxrec outdated?

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