Vitali Might Actually Make It? Peter/Klitschko Report Card

[The Gully Gad]

Yes, he is on a level of his own when it comes to punching thing. He does it with a superb technique, speed and power.

Well i dont know about rating them on punching power
but the Guy certaintly hits hard thats 4sure...

[sportsplato]

Let us remember, we are talking about Vitaly not Wlad. Vitali doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Peter. Who has Vitaly stretched out? He beats them down with hard punches. Peter has brute force behind his punches. All Sam has to do is come out aggressive and let his hands go. The KO will come. Peter by 8th rd KO.

[plug75]

Let us remember, we are talking about Vitaly not Wlad. Vitali doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Peter. Who has Vitaly stretched out? He beats them down with hard punches. Peter has brute force behind his punches. All Sam has to do is come out aggressive and let his hands go. The KO will come. Peter by 8th rd KO.

I dont think youre right. Anyone can hit harder when they just load up and swing for the fences.
Vitali punches with power AND technique, and choses his shots. I think that if Vitali were to come out with Peter's gameplan he would hit even harder than Peter, due to having longer levers and a mechanical advantage there. But boxing is a SCIENCE. About how to hit and not get hit back. Its not just reckless windmilling like a drunken farmer. Otherwise we could get Marius Pudzinowsky in to come and throw a few shots...

[crold1]

The B was assigned because Peter doesn't always apply his power well, especially since stepping up his comp.

[Scott9945]

To me it comes down to whether Vitali has regained his timing through just hard training. It's a big question mark, but if he is 75% of the fighter who fought Danny Williams he walks away with the title. But all the hard training in the world doesn't replace real combo. He'll be in big danger in the early rounds against Peter. The longer it goes, the more his timing comes back and the better his chances of winning.

[edgarg]

How can peter be the hardest hitter in the heavy weight division and only be rated as a B for power? Is there not one heavy out there that rates as an A for power?

There are at least 2 [TWO] and they are the Klitschko brothers, As for Peter being rated as a huge puncher, Klitschko has only had abou 6 fights more than Peter, none of them against CRIPPLES, like Peter had, to build his "Nigerian Nightmare" reputation.

Klitschko's very first fight was against an experienced guy with a 6-3 record, and except for maybe a couple, perhaps even only one or two, all his fights were against experienced guys with good or goodish fight records. Peter on the other hand.....Phew, I'm holding my nose whilst looking at HIS record.........

I think Maskaev was his only fight against a guy in the top 10. And, as we know he hadn't fought for nearly a year an a half before Peter having been sidelined by a genuine burst spinal disc. Not only THAT, but of his 6 losses, they were ALL by KO. So he had a very weak chin, just waiting to be "tapped".

Peter has 23 KO's against dead bodies in 30 fights, in one of which he was KD'd 3 times and in another, nearly KO'd by a single mild, almost caressing, left hook by Wladimir Klitschko.

Klitschko, on the other hand has 34 KO's in 35 wins, all of them against fighters, some of them pretty good and never before KO'd...............

So what does THAT tell us??? The only problem I see is Klitschko's age, and his lack of battle toughness. On the positive side, the Klitschkos ALWAYS come into the ring in the peak of condition. The only time this didnt occur was in the Lewis-Klischko fight when K took the fight on a little more than a week's notice, having been preparing for a much smaller, average good fighter on the same bill.

In boxing we all know that ANYTHING can happen sooooo.....................

[edgarg]

Let us remember, we are talking about Vitaly not Wlad. Vitali doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Peter. Who has Vitaly stretched out? He beats them down with hard punches. Peter has brute force behind his punches. All Sam has to do is come out aggressive and let his hands go. The KO will come. Peter by 8th rd KO.

What makes you think that Peter is such a monstrous puncher?? His KO record is about 72-73 %, EVERY ONE of them being against cripples and no-hopers with bandaid secured chins, who were aided down to the ring, leaned againt the ropes to keep them standing until Peter could approach and hit them on the backs of their necks for......a KO. Even Maskaev, the only genuine top 10 guy he fought, had 6 losses, ALL BY KO. a KO waiting to happen.

[I don't count Toney, who had bulls******d his way into some heavyweight rankings, which he didn't deserve.]

Klitschko on the other hand, has a KO record of 97% and he's KO'd good, well above average guys who were never KO'd before. This means that only ONE SINGLE fighter, TiomHoffmann, about the same size as Klitschko, and the EBU Champion, and UNBEATEN, managed to stay upright in the fight, although he lost EVERY round. He chased Lennox Lewis into retirement, when Lewis had just said he was fighting for another few years yet and was in top shape.

I'm not saying tha this means that Klitschko is going to win, he had a lot going against him.............

I'm just setting you straight on your Peter "Principles"..........................

[edgarg]

By Cliff Rold - The title says it all. After an unfortunate and aggravating, for fans and the fighter, rash of injuries in 2005 forced multiple cancellations and an early retirement for Vitali Klitschko (35-2, 34 KO), fans wondered if they’d heard the last of the Ukrainian.

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Yah don't tuck your chin "with" your neck, you tuck it "into" your neck, although of course the fighter actually doesn't do this, the chin just stays in very close proximity. At the same time the MAIN chin defence is the shoulder muscle, in alliance with the right hand guard. And of course, as the writer undoubtedly meant, the chin tucked well down.

Of course, with Peter's lack of neck, many the writer is correct.............maybe??

[edgarg]

Why not get it straight........you can if you try.

In your last section "The Pick" you fall into the same error made by many others, so I shouldn't be surprised. But you are disseminating false info, which readers regard as truth. I refer to the "multiple injuries" canard.

I'd like you to think about it. Klitschko postponed his April fight because he had what was THOUGHT to be a "thigh muscle" injury. The fight was TENTATIVELY re-arranged for June, which gave enough time for such an injury to heal, and rehabilitate. ....It DIDN'T, so they further postponed it to July.

NOW UNDERSTAND THIS..NONE of these dates was solid, NO arenas were booked, NO TV was arranged, NO tickets printed, NO undercards contracted..etc.etc. By then they'd realised that it was more than a simple muscle tear, and had a CT Scan. This showed that there was NO THIGH INJURY...I REPEAT,no thigh injury, but that there was a bonly spur growth at his spine, which was pressing on the sciatic nerve offshoot, which went to the thigh. This transferred the pain to the thigh, allowing the false diagnosis.

Furthermore this is NOT..repeat, not an injury, but a natural body function. Millions have had it, including myself, twice.

Surgery was needed, and successfully performed. There's no need to describe the process, although I could. The fight was definitely arranged for late September. In the meantime Don King and Rahman, had been agitating the news reporters with stories of Klitschko's cowering in terror at the thought of facing Rahman etc.etc. all the way to the cesspit.

In fact, there was so much crap being fluing around thast Larry King in a TV statement, said thast he'd interviewed the surgeon who'd performed the operation, and that Klitschko's account was substantially correct.

Notwithstanding the September date, King insisted that Rahman fight his very close friend Monte Barrett for the "Interim" title in August. Klitschko vehemently protested, that the winner might get cut, and also that it would give the winner -the interim Champ- a 45% cut of the purse instead of the usual challenger's 25%. King has close "connections" with the WBC. the fight was held and Rahman, as was expected by ALL, won a fight that stunk out the arena. [also as expected by all].

Both he and King said that they would be able to fight 6 weeks later in late Sept, that that fight was OK. it never happened. The fight was finally fixed for November, the arena booked, the tickets printed the TV arranged wtc.etc. all the stuff that a definite, big fight portrays.

Just a few days before the fight, I believe 10, Klitschko in sparring, got his left leg entangled with that of his sparring partner, came down heavily and broke the anterior cruciate ligament jinside his knee, which joins his thigh to his calf. it's over an inch thick.

The doctiors said it would take at least 6 months to heal, then he'd need re-habilitation, before training for a fight, and it might even take longer. The WBC gave him 60 or 90 days. So.....to avoid more delays, Klitschko gracefully retired and lett the natural evolution of the title proceed. The WBC were grateful for this and awardfed him the "Emeritus" title. One of K';s sparring partners, DaVarryl Williamson, said that the day before, he's been sparring with K, and he was in very good shape.

So...once again....Klitschko suffered only ONE SINGLE injury during the Rahman fight messaroo, and it caused his retirement.

All this was in the various news abnnouncements over the period, easily obtainable i'm sure, but needing to be put together.....................and the proper conclusions reached.

[beez721]

Let us remember, we are talking about Vitaly not Wlad. Vitali doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Peter. Who has Vitaly stretched out? He beats them down with hard punches. Peter has brute force behind his punches. All Sam has to do is come out aggressive and let his hands go. The KO will come. Peter by 8th rd KO.

actually,,,,its who has peter knocked out? peter hasnt even been able to knockout a semi durable opponent while vit has slaughtered several