Is Daniel Ponce de Leon an "elite"?

[Eaner0919]

It is a deep division but Escobedo and Penalosa aren't exactly top guys at 122 so I think he was a weak titlist going in, most people that watched him knew that he was a KO waiting to happen, it just took the right opponent to get him out of there which was Lopez, not to take anything away from him but Ponce De Leon was a weak titlist.

fair enough

[mellow_mood]

It is a deep division but Escobedo and Penalosa aren't exactly top guys at 122 so I think he was a weak titlist going in, most people that watched him knew that he was a KO waiting to happen, it just took the right opponent to get him out of there which was Lopez, not to take anything away from him but Ponce De Leon was a weak titlist.

well man...

maybe to losss by D.... not a KO...

true that he was the weakest titlist of the division.. but i dont think 2 many ppl were expecting him to loose the title by d. not KO...

PDL is a strong dude.... only that juanma put that right hook just in place... but it was pretty damn impressive to me that he lost by KO

[Eaner0919]

well man...

maybe to losss by D.... not a KO...

true that he was the weakest titlist of the division.. but i dont think 2 many ppl were expecting him to loose the title by d. not KO...

PDL is a strong dude.... only that juanma put that right hook just in place... but it was pretty damn impressive to me that he lost by KO

I was shocked at the manner at which JuanMa dispatched of Ponce. Happy (JuanMa fan) but shocked as hell. Ponce can crack and is pretty durable but Lopez blew him out

[Pullcounter]

Is Ponce de Leon a superbantam elite or is he a mere gatekeeper? Vote and defend your answer.

gatekeeper. he's too slow and can't make up for his slowness with good technique or timing.

[4773Y350NM3]

he's more a over hype fighter for awhile, after he KO that thai fighter the myth started that he was superman.with that said rey boom boom bautista look like a bum now, with how juan ma defeated ponce.

[mellow_mood]

I was shocked at the manner at which JuanMa dispatched of Ponce. Happy (JuanMa fan) but shocked as hell. Ponce can crack and is pretty durable but Lopez blew him out

yeahh.. exactly .. i was.. like what that ****???

celestino caballero beat him.. but it was a D....
pdl is a tsob....

so thats why im telling silencer.. that i dont think many ppl where expecting him to loose his title by KO...

me i was expecting him to loose by D... it was impressive ..

but staying with the thread... i dont think he's elite.... but neither i dont expect him to be just a gatekeeper.. hes better than that..

[Silencers]

well man...

maybe to losss by D.... not a KO...

true that he was the weakest titlist of the division.. but i dont think 2 many ppl were expecting him to loose the title by d. not KO...

PDL is a strong dude.... only that juanma put that right hook just in place... but it was pretty damn impressive to me that he lost by KO

Was I the only one who thought Ponce De Leon was going to get knocked out sooner or later? I will admit, I didn't expect it to happen inside a round against Lopez though.

[Eaner0919]

yeah agree

he is somewhere in the middle of elite and gatekeeper to be honest

goo enough to be a titleist but never elite. Bad enough to never be consider one of the best but still could beat the majority of fighters at 122. He still is young, still can crack, and still overwhelms the majority of fighters out there with his volume.

[mellow_mood]

Was I the only one who thought Ponce De Leon was going to get knocked out sooner or later? I will admit, I didn't expect it to happen inside a round against Lopez though.

na man... u were not the only one.. but i think the mayority would have pick him to loos by D not KO...

either way.. we all agree that we were shoked about juanma Koing him the way he did...

btw..

who u got this saturday?

[Silencers]

na man... u were not the only one.. but i think the mayority would have pick him to loos by D not KO...

either way.. we all agree that we were shoked about juanma Koing him the way he did...

btw..

who u got this saturday?

The knockout so quickly was definitely unexpected to me.

I got Dawson, Klitschko-Peter is a tough fight to pick because it all depends on how much Klitschko has left.