What Makez JCC GREATER then Salvador Sanchez??

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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #11
    Originally posted by Thadrow
    Meldrick Taylor beat him fair and square and was robbed that night.
    start another thread about it so I can shut your yap about it.


    Better yet, suck on this ether.




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    • Silencers
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      #12
      As others have mentioned, his longevity and successes in multiple weight classes, he also beat some very good fighters in his prime, of course there will be some tomato cans in there if a fighter is fighting once every couple of months, can't expect him to fight top tier opposition every time out.

      Sanchez had better ability and technique though and probably would have been greater than Chavez had he not died.

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      • Zack Morris
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        #13
        Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
        start another thread about it so I can shut your yap about it.


        Better yet, suck on this ether.




        http://boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212597

        Uh, you actually got owned in your own thread.

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        • ANDROID_DOES
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          #14
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          I posted this in another thread about "the greatest mexican fighter of all-time".

          Chavez is. Sanchez didn't have the longevity, obviously a tragic situation and through no fault of his own.

          This tomato can **** (regarding Chavez) is ****ing tired. The man fought more championship rounds than 99% of these other great fighters. I believe he lost to Whitaker and technically should have lost his first fight with Mel Taylor, but the man was still an incredible fighter.

          Martinez
          Castillo
          Mayweather
          Lockridge
          LaPorte
          Rosario
          Ramirez
          Camacho
          Haugen
          Taylor
          Lopez
          MARTY JAKUBOWSKI!!!

          For real though, spaced out over 25 years and three weight classes, that's absurd. Those are all quality wins. He only fought the best win/lose/draw. Dude stepped into the ring with everyone I mentioned plus Oscar, Tszyu and Pea. JC Superstar is a legend...nobody will ever approach a record of 107-6-2 again...not fighting the types of fighter he fought anyway.

          As for the topic at hand, I consider these guys the 10 best ever:

          Chavez
          Sanchez
          Lopez
          Saldivar
          Morales
          Olivares
          Zarate
          Gonzalez
          Barrera
          Canto

          The first three are in order...after that it gets a little harder.
          very good post couldn't have said it better!

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          • Vasyl’s dad
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            #15
            Originally posted by Zack Morris
            Uh, you actually got owned in your own thread.
            Sure I did. lol Thats why when I explained in detail, cats couldn't refute.


            They tried, but the proof is in the pudding.


            Go there and take your best shot.

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            • Miburo
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              #16
              Those who rate JCC higher will obviously claim that it's largely due to just length of career.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Tengoshi
                Those who rate JCC higher will obviously claim that it's largely due to just length of career.
                Why would someone with half the career and even less than half of the accomplishments be rated higher?

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                • BennyST
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tengoshi
                  Those who rate JCC higher will obviously claim that it's largely due to just length of career.
                  Well, that goes without saying. You can't rate a fighter on potential alone. There are many, many fighters whose potential was staggering but never actually made the accomplishments of someone like JCC. Like it or not, he was a stunningly brilliant fighter and anyone who says crap about him fighting terrible fighters has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. He's probably fought close to the greatest amount of title fights and against great champions together.

                  If you actually look properly at his record and who he fought, it really is quite amazing. Think of him as a bum all you want but when he is beating the fighters he beat, there is not much you can say. It's very rare to find a fighters that fought and beat as many great champions as he did.

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                  • Thread Stealer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    I posted this in another thread about "the greatest mexican fighter of all-time".

                    Chavez is. Sanchez didn't have the longevity, obviously a tragic situation and through no fault of his own.

                    This tomato can **** (regarding Chavez) is ****ing tired. The man fought more championship rounds than 99% of these other great fighters. I believe he lost to Whitaker and technically should have lost his first fight with Mel Taylor, but the man was still an incredible fighter.

                    Martinez
                    Castillo
                    Mayweather
                    Lockridge
                    LaPorte
                    Rosario
                    Ramirez
                    Camacho
                    Haugen
                    Taylor
                    Lopez
                    MARTY JAKUBOWSKI!!!

                    For real though, spaced out over 25 years and three weight classes, that's absurd. Those are all quality wins. He only fought the best win/lose/draw. Dude stepped into the ring with everyone I mentioned plus Oscar, Tszyu and Pea. JC Superstar is a legend...nobody will ever approach a record of 107-6-2 again...not fighting the types of fighter he fought anyway.

                    As for the topic at hand, I consider these guys the 10 best ever:

                    Chavez
                    Sanchez
                    Lopez
                    Saldivar
                    Morales
                    Olivares
                    Zarate
                    Gonzalez
                    Barrera
                    Canto

                    The first three are in order...after that it gets a little harder.
                    Great sig.

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