Mexico, 22 vs Puerto Rico, 41 - Lets name the Fights

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

fijate, quizas si

todo depende de como se distribuyan las riquezas

si te fijas, esos paises q dices q estan muy mal tienen un crecimiento economico increible anualmente. de hecho, PR es el pais latino con peor crecimiento economico actualmente... bajamos 4% anualmente. es imposible cambiar eso pq EEUU no permite q lo hagamos. controlan nuestra marina mercante, nuestras importanciones y exportaciones, etc

los paises latinos parecen ser mas pobres q PR por la corrupcion exagerada q hay, no pq no haya dinero

LOL....no es tan facil...

Piensas que Mexico, Brasil, Venezuela, paises asi no tienen dinero o recursos? Claro que si, y mucho mas que Puertorico pero como dijo el otro, hablar de eso es una cosa, hacer los es otra cosa totalmente..

[fdotorres]

Tranquilo. The PNP seeks statehood, which hardly makes Puerto Rico subjugated by the United States of America, but a full member of the union. The PPD seeks to remain a colony indefinitely, which IS by definition remaining subjugated by the USA. The PIP seeks independence. Blaming the subjugation on the PNP, or claiming that they seek to remain subjugated is beyond absurd, considering that they progressively seek a change in the status. It's all peaches/cream/and phat asses to declare that we should run **** on our own, but a greatly different animal to actually do it. Because of the "dead aid" that has been given without cost to the government, with substantial cost(s) to the populace, we've been plagued with countless corrupt and incompetently inept administrations. And we lack trade relations with neighbors like Cuba, Venezuela, and Hispanola, because the empire has forbid us to trade freely, especially with our embargoed neighbor cousin Cuba.

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i blame conformism to the PNP, because although the PPD seeks subjugation, they have historically at least TRIED to maintain a balance between working on their own and asking for help

when you watch the history of the PNP, they were the guys who started giving out government work spots for their campaign leaders and all of those that help the party no win elections. you don't employ people that way, or else you end up with 50% of your work force being on the government

the PNP also handed out the 936, which were the base of our economy. they were also the ones who privatized our hospitals, colleges, and public institutions to create a public health plan, which has failed miserably due to their own corruption (45 head of departments assigned by the PNP governor himself are in jail for steling our money)

the PNP basically took the few good things the PPD made and sold them. in the process of destroying the PPD, they destroyed the country's econonomy and made us 100% dependent of the US

btw, the US CLEARLY have no intentions of giving us statehood, even if he voted for it, so that in itself is enough reason for that party NOT to exist. of course, confusing your own people earns you lots of money and power, so they will keep selling the statehood fantasy until the US decides to let us go... that's when we're gonna be ****ed up

[ELHURACAN58]

i blame conformism to the PNP, because although the PPD seeks subjugation, they have historically at least TRIED to maintain a balance between working on their own and asking for help

when you watch the history of the PNP, they were the guys who started giving out government work spots for their campaign leaders and all of those that help the party no win elections. you don't employ people that way, or else you end up with 50% of your work force being on the government

the PNP also handed out the 936, which were the base of our economy. they were also the ones who privatized our hospitals, colleges, and public institutions to create a public health plan, which has failed miserably due to their own corruption (45 head of departments assigned by the PNP governor himself are in jail for steling our money)

the PNP basically took the few good things the PPD made and sold them. in the process of destroying the PPD, they destroyed the country's econonomy and made us 100% dependent of the US

btw, the US CLEARLY have no intentions of giving us statehood, even if he voted for it, so that in itself is enough reason for that party NOT to exist. of course, confusing your own people earns you lots of money and power, so they will keep selling the statehood fantasy until the US decides to let us go... that's when we're gonna be ****ed up

Great post fdtorres and so true

[fdotorres]

LOL....no es tan facil...

Piensas que Mexico, Brasil, Venezuela, paises asi no tienen dinero o recursos? Claro que si, y mucho mas que Puertorico pero como dijo el otro, hablar de eso es una cosa, hacer los es otra cosa totalmente..

ya el mundo demostro q no hacen falta recursos para salir adelante

hace falta educacion y determinacion. hace falta honestidad y poca corrupcion (digo poca pq siempre la habra)

singapur no tiene recursos naturales y mira el boom economico q tienen. lo mismo japon... no tienen ningun recurso y tienen una economia solida!

los paises q tienen recursos naturales los deberian utilizar, pero no hacer q su economia sea basada en ellos. el unico recurso indispensable y renovable de un pais lo son las mentes y la mano de obra. si tienes eso y un balance de clases sociales y baja corrupcion, sales adelante

y claro q es dificil, pero hay varios paises q demuestran q no es imposible

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

i blame conformism to the PNP, because although the PPD seeks subjugation, they have historically at least TRIED to maintain a balance between working on their own and asking for help

when you watch the history of the PNP, they were the guys who started giving out government work spots for their campaign leaders and all of those that help the party no win elections. you don't employ people that way, or else you end up with 50% of your work force being on the government

the PNP also handed out the 936, which were the base of our economy. they were also the ones who privatized our hospitals, colleges, and public institutions to create a public health plan, which has failed miserably due to their own corruption (45 head of departments assigned by the PNP governor himself are in jail for steling our money)

the PNP basically took the few good things the PPD made and sold them. in the process of destroying the PPD, they destroyed the country's econonomy and made us 100% dependent of the US

btw, the US CLEARLY have no intentions of giving us statehood, even if he voted for it, so that in itself is enough reason for that party NOT to exist. of course, confusing your own people earns you lots of money and power, so they will keep selling the statehood fantasy until the US decides to let us go... that's when we're gonna be ****ed up

Co sign!!!!!!!

Muy buen analisys caballo!!!!!

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

ya el mundo demostro q no hacen falta recursos para salir adelante

hace falta educacion y determinacion. hace falta honestidad y poca corrupcion (digo poca pq siempre la habra)

singapur no tiene recursos naturales y mira el boom economico q tienen. lo mismo japon... no tienen ningun recurso y tienen una economia solida!

los paises q tienen recursos naturales los deberian utilizar, pero no hacer q su economia sea basada en ellos. el unico recurso indispensable y renovable de un pais lo son las mentes y la mano de obra. si tienes eso y un balance de clases sociales y baja corrupcion, sales adelante

y claro q es dificil, pero hay varios paises q demuestran q no es imposible

Mano muy bien dicho.

No te puede dar K verde, pero que se va a hacer.

Hay que un dia ir a darnos una cerveza o algo!!!!!

[BMWM3P]

Dejen la mierda de politica ya, basicamente Puerto Rico esta jodio por el fanatismo politico. Los partidos aqui no representan mierda solamente e******os suenos de anexamiento que nunca van a suceder. Si dejamos de pensar en colores y pensamos mas en que defiende nuestros ideales, estos politicos dejaran de hacer lo que le salga de los cojones y empesaran a trabajaar para nosotros como debe ser.


Estos cabrones usan la estadidad, ela o independentismo para limpiarle el celebro a la gente y no dejarlos pensar en lo que de verdad importa. A mi esto cabrons no me cojen mas na, yo no vuelvo a votar por partidos pero por individuales que defiendan mi ideales.

Pal carajo con esta mierda vamos hablar de boxeo.

[DeltaSigChi4]

Not a bad statement!!!!!

Thanks. I guess I remembered some of my 18$ per credit education from the University of Puerto Rico a decade ago.

Very well said.....

No offense to Puertoricans but I have to laugh when some of them wish the U.S would just leave them alone and let them run themselves. The mother of my child is from PR and her family tells me nothing but the corruption at the local level of Govt in PR, imagine if it didn't have the economic backing of the U.S?? Not a good thought.......

The "dead aid" is the problem. It's not a matter of governments that do bad with it are surely to do worse without it, it's that governments that are drunkenly dependent on it do badly BECAUSE of it, not in spite of it. I recommend reading:



It applies to every continent, not just Africa.

todo depende de como se distribuyan las riquezas

¡Si, señor! ¿Haz leido Eduardo Galeano? La explotiacion es el problema #1 que tenemos.

LOL....no es tan facil...

Piensas que Mexico, Brasil, Venezuela, paises asi no tienen dinero o recursos? Claro que si, y mucho mas que Puertorico pero como dijo el otro, hablar de eso es una cosa, hacer los es otra cosa totalmente..

Exacto. El problema es hacer lo. Tienen que a) eliminar la explotiacion de los recursos de La Isla por el imperio; b) deshacer del "dead aid"; c) restablecer relaciones completas con nuestros hermanos latinos (paises); y d) tener una mano fuerte con los oficiales corruptos en cuanto la justicia/sentencias severas.

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[fdotorres]

Very well said.....

No offense to Puertoricans but I have to laugh when some of them wish the U.S would just leave them alone and let them run themselves. The mother of my child is from PR and her family tells me nothing but the corruption at the local level of Govt in PR, imagine if it didn't have the economic backing of the U.S?? Not a good thought.......

hubo una administracion q robo billones aqui. q tuvo mas de 40 lideres de gabinete encarcelados por robar... incluso la secretaria personal del gobe fue presa (todos excepto el gobe, q robo tanto q compro su libertad)

ese loco pillo volvio a postularse cm gobernador, y casi 1 millon de personas (casi la mitad del pais) le dieron el voto. afortunadamente hubo gente de muchos partidos q se unieron y votaron por otro de los postulados y no le permitieron hacer lo mismo de nuevo.

el problema q luego surgio es q votaron en contra de el lider de ese partido, pero votaron por el resto del partido de el. lo q paso fue q hubo una guerra de poder entre el lider del PPD (gobernador) y el resto del gobierno (PNP)

en PR la corrupcion no ha sido tanta desde q se creo el sistema politico actual. el problema comenzo luego de la administracion PNP q elimino nuestro sistema economico y vendio todas las instituciones publicas con la excusa de crear un plan de salud gratuito... lo q hicieron fue robarse ese dinero y hacer una tarjeta de salud inservible q casi quiebra al gobierno en varias ocasiones

[fdotorres]

Dejen la mierda de politica ya, basicamente Puerto Rico esta jodio por el fanatismo politico. Los partidos aqui no representan mierda solamente e******os suenos de anexamiento que nunca van a suceder. Si dejamos de pensar en colores y pensamos mas en que defiende nuestros ideales, estos politicos dejaran de hacer lo que le salga de los cojones y empesaran a trabajaar para nosotros como debe ser.


Estos cabrones usan la estadidad, ela o independentismo para limpiarle el celebro a la gente y no dejarlos pensar en lo que de verdad importa. A mi esto cabrons no me cojen mas na, yo no vuelvo a votar por partidos pero por individuales que defiendan mi ideales.

Pal carajo con esta mierda vamos hablar de boxeo.

boxeo? ok... aqui va

cotto y tito son estadistas