Did Roy Jones Jr Duck Nigel Benn?

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The credit Jones should get for beating Hopkins is exactly what he did get, beating a young, talented, but quite unproven MW who was a credible threat to him to determine which of the two was the best and which deserved to be world champion. It is a good win, and Hopkins subsequent achievements showed just how hard beating him actually was.

As for Jones Calzaghe, yes, it is conceivable Jones would fight Calzaghe now when past his best and have avoided the likes of Benn, Eubank and Darius back then. Roy has a lot to gain and nothing to lose by fighting Calzaghe, whereas he would have had little to gain and a lot to lose in facing those guys. I am NOT saying he ducked them, merely pointing out that Roy's willingness to fight Calzaghe says little about his bravery and more about his position in boxing in 2008.

[bsrizpac]

The credit Jones should get for beating Hopkins is exactly what he did get, beating a young, talented, but quite unproven MW who was a credible threat to him to determine which of the two was the best and which deserved to be world champion. It is a good win, and Hopkins subsequent achievements showed just how hard beating him actually was.

As for Jones Calzaghe, yes, it is conceivable Jones would fight Calzaghe now when past his best and have avoided the likes of Benn, Eubank and Darius back then. Roy has a lot to gain and nothing to lose by fighting Calzaghe, whereas he would have had little to gain and a lot to lose in facing those guys. I am NOT saying he ducked them, merely pointing out that Roy's willingness to fight Calzaghe says little about his bravery and more about his position in boxing in 2008.

Same could be said about Calzaghe or DM, except neither were ranked as high as Jones in their primes. This makes Joe's recent "bravery" nothing to write home about either. Jones might be in a bad position in boxing, fine. But Joe is taking fights with old and shot fighters in his last two. Doesn't say much.

Cue: Kessler, Lacy.

[hishaam15]

The credit Jones should get for beating Hopkins is exactly what he did get, beating a young, talented, but quite unproven MW who was a credible threat to him to determine which of the two was the best and which deserved to be world champion. It is a good win, and Hopkins subsequent achievements showed just how hard beating him actually was.

As for Jones Calzaghe, yes, it is conceivable Jones would fight Calzaghe now when past his best and have avoided the likes of Benn, Eubank and Darius back then. Roy has a lot to gain and nothing to lose by fighting Calzaghe, whereas he would have had little to gain and a lot to lose in facing those guys. I am NOT saying he ducked them, merely pointing out that Roy's willingness to fight Calzaghe says little about his bravery and more about his position in boxing in 2008.

i agree he had little to gain alot to lose, but who was there to fight in his prime where he would be the underdog? he would have been expected to beat all the fighters you mentioned above... only way i could see him being the underdog in his prime would be fighting Lennox or Holyfeild...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Nothing "mighty" about him. No one was saying that slow ****. Just that he is a heavyweight and Benn is a midget. They have weight classes for a reason tard.

Of course if Ruiz was from the UK you wouldn't say any of this. You'd say Jones ducked him before he fought him.

Benn was an excellent and dangerous supermiddleweight. He was considered p4p the hardest puncher in the game.

Ruiz is a slow, fat, crap, hugging heavyweight with no real power.

Get it yet, dip****?

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He was considered p4p the hardest puncher in the game.

Link please.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So, when did DM hold the ring belt? I'll answer, NEVER. He who holds that belt, which Jones did, is the champ. Simple as that. DM was NEVER willing to come over here and fight. It was NEVER, EVER said that he would. I don't even come close to ****ing around about Rjj history. You better try that with somebody else.
> It does matters who you pick because Dariusz is now retired and the fight can never come off. Your too ignorant to even see the difference between Cotto-Margarito and a DM-Rjj fight, so why should I even waste my time with this.
> If this is not a playground to you , then shut the **** up and realize when you are overmatched.

-This concludes your FREE insider boxing lesson.

at your angry Jones fanboy ranting.

Virgil Hill beat Henry Maske for the lineal championship. Then Dariusz beat Virgil Hill before Jones did. Jones picked up Dariusz's old scraps - the belts he never lost in the ring. The Ring Magazine then handed Jones there belt because he "unified" the division - when in reality, he'd just picked up Dariusz's old belt.

The editor of Ring, Nigel Collins, even admitted they had changed their policy and Dariusz wouldve been Ring Champ had they been using that policy before.

Now you're just lying. Dariusz gave many interviews where he said he'd fight Jones in America. You're just ignoring the truth.

Jones was the one making unrealistic price demands - as he often did.

[bsrizpac]

Benn was an excellent and dangerous supermiddleweight. He was considered p4p the hardest puncher in the game.

Ruiz is a slow, fat, crap, hugging heavyweight with no real power.

Get it yet, dip****?

Gerald was considered a harder puncher before they fought. Biased ****.

[bsrizpac]

at your angry Jones fanboy ranting.

Virgil Hill beat Henry Maske for the lineal championship. Then Dariusz beat Virgil Hill before Jones did. Jones picked up Dariusz's old scraps - the belts he never lost in the ring. The Ring Magazine then handed Jones there belt because he "unified" the division - when in reality, he'd just picked up Dariusz's old belt.

The editor of Ring, Nigel Collins, even admitted they had changed their policy and Dariusz wouldve been Ring Champ had they been using that policy before.

Now you're just lying. Dariusz gave many interviews where he said he'd fight Jones in America. You're just ignoring the truth.

Jones was the one making unrealistic price demands - as he often did.

Links.

Didn't DM show up for a Jones fight in America. Watch it. Then went back home and never mentioned Jones again? Yup.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

This is simple. Calzaghe is an example of a better UK/European fighter than anyone who would have or should have fought Jones in his prime. Calzaghe is comin over here to fight Roy, right. Roy is past his prime at this point. Calzaghe is probably a hair past his as well. Do you think that Jones would fight Joe "****ing" Calzaghe while past his prime, but duck Nigel Benn, Eubank or Collins while in his prime? ............................Please tell me you see a point. Tell me you have the brain power to relate this topic to what is currently happening in boxing. I really feel like we are speaking on different levels now. If you respond to this, please have something even remotely intellegent to say. Otherwise, I promise I will not respond any longer. This is beyond ridiculous, considering where this came from and that you never even had a point to argue on this matter, other than your opinion.

Abso-****ing-lutely spot on.

The ONLY REASON Jones is taking the fight with Calzaghe now is that he is past his prime and has something to gain. Calzaghe has done Roy a favour by giving him a fight. Jones had it all to lose by taking difficult fights in his prime. Now, he can fight Calzaghe and lose yet still come out with credibility for whatever effort he puts up because everyone thinks hes shot anyway

You really dont see this?

You're right. We are talking on different levels. Try to catch up.

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Virgil Hill beat Henry Maske for the lineal championship.

How was this bout for the lineal title? Please don't embarrass yourself.

Then Dariusz beat Virgil Hill before Jones did. Jones picked up Dariusz's old scraps - the belts he never lost in the ring. The Ring Magazine then handed Jones there belt because he "unified" the division - when in reality, he'd just picked up Dariusz's old belt.

Actually, Hill and Jones never fought for a title. Dariusz had a choice and opted to keep the WBO belt. You know it but keep thinking you're fooling someone on here.
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