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  • AntonTheMeh
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    #21
    pretty much money welter, pretty much.

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    • AntonTheMeh
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      #22
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      Its a double edged sword, I believe Pwill is a better fighter overall than quintana and would beat him in a rubbermatch.. the fact he had no southpaw sparring partners is what says it for me... thats a huge mistake to make while preparing for a fight...

      I thought it was a close fight, but clear and decisive for williams... I also think Williams is a different fighter now then he was the first time they fought, i think hes tuned in his power more... and I think its a stylistic nightmare for Margarito... someone who actually throws more punches than him, is taller, who moves a lot, and who can actually take a punch... i see a rematch with both quintana and margarito having the same conclusions
      if quintana was 6-2 he'd be a far better fighter.so in essence, his only advantage over quintana is size.he is not a better fighter.

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      • THE REED
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        #23
        Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
        if quintana was 6-2 he'd be a far better fighter.so in essence, his only advantage over quintana is size.he is not a better fighter.
        thats your opinion and your entitled to it

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        • LEFTYGUNZZ
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          #24
          Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
          You're wrong cotto did everything he can do! He even said he had a plan a, plan b, and plan c and it didn't work. He said himself he was beaten by a better man and nothing he did worked against margarito. So what can cotto do differently in a rematch to change the outcome?
          Yes I agree with you sir on that night he did everything he could. Can he change his plan for the rematch. I agree that night he did everything he could and Margarito beat him good.....Lefty

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          • IMDAZED
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            #25
            Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
            Paul Williams got his ass handed to him for 12 rounds by a B rated fighter..

            Since then he has fought 2 rounds.. Granted he KO'd the same guy who handed him his ass for 12 rounds..But since we saw nothing of the sort the 1st time.. We can safley assume the 2nd fight was a Fluke until we see a 3rd fight

            And then he KO'd a Nobody.. at 160.. and I mean a ****ING nobody..in 1 round..

            Now suddenly Guys like Kelly Pavlik are ducking him???

            I am sorry guys.. But Paul Williams is a very beatable fighter..Even the Margarito fight was more about what Margarito DIDN`T do as oppossed to what Williams did..

            Paul Williams is nothing more than a Prospect with 1 good win and a humiliating loss on his resume..

            Potential?? .. Yes... Already there?? Nope

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            While I agree that Pavlik is not losing any sleep over him - and that he hasn't realized his potential, the latter should tell you something. Because he HASN't realized that potential but is already a world champ.

            As far as what Margarito DIDN'T do against him, ask yourself why. Why would a man who shows total disregard for the incoming be tentative? Maybe because of what Williams did? (ie. 1400+ punches thrown and exceptional boxing?). Just a though.

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            • Hitman932
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              #26
              Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
              if quintana was 6-2 he'd be a far better fighter.so in essence, his only advantage over quintana is size.he is not a better fighter.
              If Quintana were 6'2 he wouldn't be the same kind of fighter, I see the point you're making but I think it's a little off base.

              I agree with Welter that Williams is beatable but I disagree with his assertion that Quintana is B-level. He is only a half step behind the Cottos and Margaritos of the world.

              Joel Julio was supposed to be hot **** and Quintana embarrassed him and also pulled off a 9-1 upset over Williams.

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              • El Jesus
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sin City
                Would you say Valuev is a gifted athlete/boxer or is where he is at because of his sheer size alone?
                Same with Williams..
                Valuev benefits from a garbage division, like most of these heavyweight champs in this era.

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                • ANDROID_DOES
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  If Quintana were 6'2 he wouldn't be the same kind of fighter, I see the point you're making but I think it's a little off base.

                  I agree with Welter that Williams is beatable but I disagree with his assertion that Quintana is B-level. He is only a half step behind the Cottos and Margaritos of the world.

                  Joel Julio was supposed to be hot **** and Quintana embarrassed him and also pulled off a 9-1 upset over Williams.
                  quintana's win over Julio was a huge suprise and the fashion he did it in was very evident quintana is game. he losses to cotto and then beats a guys in which he outsized so much it's not even funny, then he losses the rematch and is a bum??? I think quintana can give margarito fits if he fought the way he did in the first pwill fight. It's funny the guys will mention pwills hieght but completely shy away with the reach he also brings in and try to justify he's the same size as ww's.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                    Paul Williams got his ass handed to him for 12 rounds by a B rated fighter..

                    Since then he has fought 2 rounds.. Granted he KO'd the same guy who handed him his ass for 12 rounds..But since we saw nothing of the sort the 1st time.. We can safley assume the 2nd fight was a Fluke until we see a 3rd fight

                    And then he KO'd a Nobody.. at 160.. and I mean a ****ING nobody..in 1 round..

                    Now suddenly Guys like Kelly Pavlik are ducking him???

                    I am sorry guys.. But Paul Williams is a very beatable fighter..Even the Margarito fight was more about what Margarito DIDN`T do as oppossed to what Williams did..

                    Paul Williams is nothing more than a Prospect with 1 good win and a humiliating loss on his resume..

                    Potential?? .. Yes... Already there?? Nope

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                    a 1 punch KO is pretty convincing.

                    did we have to see tarver/rjj III after rjj got KTFO in the rematch???

                    also why won't margarito rematch williams to prove he had a fluke? is he scared? is he running? is he a coward? is he not a mexican warrior? does he pee in his pants whenever williams is mentioned? all question will be answered if margarito wasn't such a ***** and make the fight.

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                    • warp1432
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                      #30
                      Good against pressure fighters, but Quintana's movement puzzled the **** out of him. It's why I'd pick Mayweather to beat him easy. **** even Collazo would give him problems.

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