Joe Calzaghe Vacates WBO Title After a Ten-Year Run

[abadger]

IMDAZED, are you aware that you and I share the same birthday, but that you are exactly one year older than I am? Strange, huh?

[WESS]

Sadly "at the end of the day" when Joe Calzaghe is long gone. America will have forgotten all about him.

He will never be "AN ALL TIME GREAT". He will possibly go down in the hall of fame for having had 21 title defenses and possibly being undefeated.

Nothing more nothing less. That's not hate, that's just the truth. Its all on paper.

America will never accept this guy and once again "at the end of the day" that's what Joe Calzaghe wanted. Recognition from the American public, which in some peoples eyes is more important than anything in the sport of boxing. Obviously Joe knew that. Just was a late bloomer.

Sorry Joe, Americans aren't that gullible. You still have a few more fights to attend too before you get the credit you so desperately beg for from us. America knows it and you (joe) know it. Don't kid yourself. If Kessler goes on to be a bum. Your record is shot.....

On the flip side he had a great run and I'm curious to see who will take his spot. I congratulate him on being wise and not taking a risk by fighting on in that weight revision. Good on him.

"At the end of the day" Joe has his place in boxing.

[abadger]

Sadly "at the end of the day" when Joe Calzaghe is long gone. America will have forgotten all about him.

He will never be "AN ALL TIME GREAT". He will possibly go down in the hall of fame for having had 21 title defenses and possibly being undefeated.

Nothing more nothing less. That's not hate, that's just the truth. Its all on paper.

America will never accept this guy and once again "at the end of the day" that's what Joe Calzaghe wanted. Recognition from the American public, which in some peoples eyes is more important than anything in the sport of boxing. Obviously Joe knew that. Just was a late bloomer.

Sorry Joe, Americans aren't that gullible. You still have a few more fights to attend too before you get the credit you so desperately beg for from us. America knows it and you (joe) know it. Don't kid yourself. If Kessler goes on to be a bum. Your record is shot.....

On the flip side he had a great run and I'm curious to see who will take his spot. I congratulate him on being wise and not taking a risk by fighting on in that weight revision. Good on him.

"At the end of the day" Joe has his place in boxing.

If America forgets about him Wess, more power to Uncle Sam. Presumably boxing fans won't forget Calzaghe, since he's going to be sitting on top of the 'greatest ever SMW' lists for some time. And of course there'll be the matter of those two Ring titles becoming vacant again....

[IMDAZED]

If I had to argue with you I would say that I would personally rate Kessler a better win than any of Jones other than Toney and Ruiz (being as it was at heavyweight), and I might rate Eubank a better win than Tarver, but I know you will disagree.

Out of curiousity, who has Mikkel Kessler beaten to be rated higher than Antonio Tarver? Reggie Johnson? Virgil Hill? And a host of others?

[IMDAZED]

IMDAZED, are you aware that you and I share the same birthday, but that you are exactly one year older than I am? Strange, huh?

How apropo lol. It was meant for us to duel every day on this subject.

[abadger]

Out of curiousity, who has Mikkel Kessler beaten to be rated higher than Antonio Tarver? Reggie Johnson? Virgil Hill? And a host of others?

I believe Kessler once beat a Prime Sugar Ray Robinson...

Seriously though, I just happen to rate Kessler, so that will have to do. Even you must surely admit that the man appears to be the goods as a SMW?

[WESS]

For sure! But my point was people are saying he will be an "ALL TIME GREAT" but to do that you must convince the world you are a great. Joe came to America to get the American people to have the same perspective as his home land.

I'm not hating. I'm stating that worldwide he will not be remembered as anything great. Just a guy possibly in the hall of fame for having 21 title defenses and possibly retiring undefeated.

Is that so bad????? Its not. Its good but nothing great..... Joe has his a spot in boxing history BUT it wont be with the greats like Ali etc etc etc. That's all.

And according to some or many "UNCLE SAM" has a big say on WHO is WHO in the sport of boxing. Joe knew this, hence the reason he came over here. He was just as I stated before a "late bloomer" which really hurts his legacy in the American eyes.... But again not taking anything away he did his thing. "at the end of the day" boxing wont miss him. Just waiting for another guy to take his place.

[abadger]

For sure! But my point was people are saying he will be an "ALL TIME GREAT" but to do that you must convince the world you are a great. Joe came to America to get the American people to have the same perspective as his home land.

I'm not hating. I'm stating that worldwide he will not be remembered as anything great. Just a guy possibly in the hall of fame for having 21 title defenses and possibly retiring undefeated.

Is that so bad????? Its not. Its good but nothing great..... Joe has his a spot in boxing history BUT it wont be with the greats like Ali etc etc etc. That's all.

And according to some or many "UNCLE SAM" has a big say on WHO is WHO in the sport of boxing. Joe knew this, hence the reason he came over here. He was just as I stated before a "late bloomer" which really hurts his legacy in the American eyes.... But again not taking anything away he did his thing. "at the end of the day" boxing wont miss him. Just waiting for another guy to take his place.

Perhaps Wess it is your own pride as an American that leads you to believe Calzaghe cares what America thinks of him. Perhaps in reality he really just wanted to be paid more.

[IMDAZED]

I believe Kessler once beat a Prime Sugar Ray Robinson...

Seriously though, I just happen to rate Kessler, so that will have to do. Even you must surely admit that the man appears to be the goods as a SMW?

Well who has he beat to show he's the goods at SMW? Or - back to my original question - who has he beat to be rated higher than Antonio Tarver, Reggie Johnson and Virgil Hill? (We'll leave it at those three for now.)

[BrooklynBomber]

What a *****, he just could not hang with the likes of Froch and Inkin.