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  • dstew
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    #141
    Originally posted by Addition
    This must be a joke, fighting Froch wouldn't be better. Froch is hardly known and is called a bum.
    Froch is undeniably better than Haussler, at least from a name standpoint. His loud mouth, while annoying lately, is getting him noticed. He's the #1 contender for the WBC with a strong KO rating and has never seen the mat.

    I don't rate Froch as great myself, but to say he is no better than Haussler is just wrong.

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      #142
      Taylor's main crutch is his ability to take a punch, and the effects punches have on him..........he doesn't like to get hit. He's not a defensive specialist.

      He eventually get's hit.

      Haha and he's going to take one of those bombs from Kessler?

      He would get knocked out cold with 1 single right hand.



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        #143
        The hardest puncher he ever faced (Who still probably doesn't punch as hard As Kessler overall) in Pavlik:

        Knocked him the **** out.



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          #144
          Originally posted by RunW/Knives
          Taylor's main crutch is his ability to take a punch, and the effects punches have on him..........he doesn't like to get hit. He's not a defensive specialist.

          He eventually get's hit.

          Haha and he's going to take one of those bombs from Kessler?

          He would get knocked out cold with 1 single right hand.
          The exact same could be said for Kessler. He buckled from some of Calzaghe's punches (!) and was rocked by Sartison in the first round of their fight. Taylor went 12 rounds with a hard hitting Pavlik in his last fight, despite eating almost 300 punches.

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #145
            i would have to pick Kessler here TBH

            Taylor is a decent boxer but his biggest flaws are he telegraphs his right hand he cannot fight at a pace and does'nt like to be put under preassure he has poor stamina and a questionable chin not to mention a poor defence



            Kessler is not a great great fighter but he has more tools than Taylor IMO

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            • dstew
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              #146
              Originally posted by RunW/Knives
              The hardest puncher he ever faced (Who still probably doesn't punch as hard As Kessler overall) in Pavlik:

              Knocked him the **** out.
              Kessler's so strong, he KO'd Mundine.

              Oh wait, that wasn't Kessler...
              Last edited by dstew; 09-25-2008, 05:57 PM.

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                #147
                I'm loving all the claims about Taylor's weak chin. You get knocked out once, by a guy with a high KO rating no less, and all of a sudden your chin is weak. I guess George Foreman has a weak chin too.

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                  #148
                  Everyone says that fighting Miranda would have been better than beating Sartison for the WBA belt, but would it really? In my experience boxers tend to prefer taking risks only when they have something to gain from that risk. What does Kessler have to gain from beating Miranda? He gains name exposure undoubtedly, but in real terms would find himself exactly where he already was, regarded as a dangerous opponent for anyone at SMW or LHW but still with no bargaining chip that might make someone want to fight him.

                  You may say here, that Kessler's name would be more well known, he would bring more money to the table and be a considerable scalp for anyone who beat him. Maybe, but how accurate really is this? Did he not deliver his career best performance on American television against Andrade, a boxer of similar status to Miranda and remain unknown? Did he not then see his fight with one of the world's best fighters roundly ignored by the US public? How much reputation and exposure would a Danish boxer really get from beating a Colombian boxer coming off losses. Did Pavlik make his name because he was a boxer who beat Edison Miranda, or because he was an American boxer who scored a great KO victory?

                  I think it is easy to see here that the Miranda = Exposure theory may be a bit of a chimera. One thing that is not a chimera is the WBA strap that Kessler now wears around his waist. Sooner or later someone else is going to want that strap. It might be Carl Froch if he fails to get past Pascal, it might be Jeff Lacy if he scores a surprise victory over Taylor. It might be Taylor if he beats Lacy, it might even be Edison Miranda looking for a final shot at the big time. Whoever it is, one day someone will, and that is why Kessler chose to get his hands on it. Something solid, something you can touch, something that marks you out, is a much greater prize to fight for than something as ephemeral as exposure and the dubious promise of better things to come.

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                    #149
                    ^^ There are plenty of guys, especially former champions who don't have belts that have no trouble getting big fights. This is because they've made a name for themselves, which is what Kessler would have further accomplished if he had beaten Miranda, who is a bigger name in the U.S. than Andrade. His fight with Calzaghe, for whatever reason, did not do big numbers in the U.S. and he was on the losing end regardless.

                    I hope you're right, that at some point someone like Taylor comes after his belt. But that's a waiting game that may take a while, especially when there are other, more respected belts to go after, and are probably easier to get.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      The million other things he could have done that fighters have done when they don't want to fight their mandatory? Do I have to spell that out for you?

                      But really, that's not the point. The point is, his opponent is GARBAGE. Whether you wanna overlook that or not or say he HAS to.
                      Any one of those million things. Please enlighten us. And stick to Kessler. That is, after all the topic.

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