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    #11
    Originally posted by Tunney
    Haye said "they're all bums" in the heavyweight division. So no matter who he fights, it will be in Haye's mind a bum.

    Good point!

    But talking about who he was looking to fight etc is all good, but really we can only wait to see who he does fight. Maybe he thought of some less than stellar (Infact just aweful) oppennets, but if he fought someone like Chambers...Who cares? He still ended up fighting a good oppenent.

    If he does fight a bum like Mercer (Was a good fighter, way past it), or Champman then I will agree that he is being a hypocritical *****. But I want to wait and see who he does fight before saying it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by T-97
      Good point!

      But talking about who he was looking to fight etc is all good, but really we can only wait to see who he does fight. Maybe he thought of some less than stellar (Infact just aweful) oppennets, but if he fought someone like Chambers...Who cares? He still ended up fighting a good oppenent.

      If he does fight a bum like Mercer (Was a good fighter, way past it), or Champman then I will agree that he is being a hypocritical *****. But I want to wait and see who he does fight before saying it.
      No way will Haye fight a live body anytime soon at heavyweight, at this point he's just trying to hype himself and make it seems like he's the good but eventually he will have to produce. I expect Haye to pick either an unknown no hoper or in Mercer's case a faded name opponent.

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        #13
        Originally posted by lparm
        No way will Haye fight a live body anytime soon at heavyweight, at this point he's just trying to hype himself and make it seems like he's the good but eventually he will have to produce. I expect Haye to pick either an unknown no hoper or in Mercer's case a faded name opponent.
        I hope you will take this back if Haye does fight a good oppenent. I have faith that he will, and dearly hope that he does. If he does not, as I said, I will agree that he is being a *****. But, until he proves me otherwise I have faith in him

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          Haye has his left way too low and obviously needs to correct that if he ever thinks about fighting Wlad. With an opening like that Wlad who smash Haye's glass jaw and shut his big mouth.

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            #15
            Originally posted by lparm
            Haye has his left way too low and obviously needs to correct that if he ever thinks about fighting Wlad. With an opening like that Wlad who smash Haye's glass jaw and shut his big mouth.
            Judging Haye by that fight is like judging Klitschko from the Purrity fight, or Pacquiao by his KO Losses early in his career.

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              #16
              Originally posted by T-97
              I hope you will take this back if Haye does fight a good oppenent. I have faith that he will, and dearly hope that he does. If he does not, as I said, I will agree that he is being a *****. But, until he proves me otherwise I have faith in him
              If Haye does fight a name opponent and a dangerous one at that I will admit I was wrong. In fact as always quote me on this, Haye was better than I thought for fighting a dangerous guy and I'm saying this before it happens.

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                #17
                Originally posted by T-97
                Judging Haye by that fight is like judging Klitschko from the Purrity fight, or Pacquiao by his KO Losses early in his career.
                Thompson is arguably the hardest puncher Haye fought and every punch phased him. That was against a past his best cw, Haye needs to put up or shut up because if he reacts like that to a top heavyweights shots then he's done.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by lparm
                  Thompson is arguably the hardest puncher Haye fought and every punch phased him. That was against a past his best cw, Haye needs to put up or shut up because if he reacts like that to a top heavyweights shots then he's done.
                  No it didn't. Watch the full fight, the shots Carl landed early in the fight when Haye was fresh didn't actually effect Haye all that much. His punches started effecting Haye when he got tired, and it lead to him getting stopped.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by T-97
                    No it didn't. Watch the full fight, the shots Carl landed early in the fight when Haye was fresh didn't actually effect Haye all that much. His punches started effecting Haye when he got tired, and it lead to him getting stopped.
                    Haye started feeling the shots in round 2 and by round 3 he was really shaken up so are you telling me that Haye is only "fresh" for 1-2 rounds? That kind of conditioning wont wash against the best heavyweights that will test his chin from the opening bell.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by lparm
                      Haye started feeling the shots in round 2 and by round 3 he was really shaken up so are you telling me that Haye is only "fresh" for 1-2 rounds? That kind of conditioning wont wash against the best heavyweights that will test his chin from the opening bell.
                      Like I said, you are judging a fighter on his 11th fight! How is that fair. Haye didn't have good stamina at the time, and went all out in the first 2 rounds. The shots didn't start effecting him in the 2nd, towards the middle of the 3rd Haye started to tire and that's when they had some effect. It wasn't until the 4th and 5th that the shots started to really effect him though. Haye has improved his stamina since then, he went 12 rounds, fought a 9 round fight with Fragomeni at a good pace, 7 rounds against Mormeck.

                      At the time he fought Thompson I think his longest fight was 4 rounds.

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