Bantamweight is an underrated division.

[Eric Holder]

Thanks. Hasgeawa is one of my favorite fighters besides Hopkins and Mijares.

Speaking of Mijares...:



Mijares was once a great fighter. He changed his style/got destroyed by Darchinyan. No idea why, but I can't believe I thought Mijares would beat him haha.

I remember when Mijares was walking into the ring against Vic, he had the most arrogant looking smirk ... I thought he was going to completly outclass

[warp1432]

I remember when Mijares was walking into the ring against Vic, he had the most arrogant looking smirk ... I thought he was going to completly outclass

I was so crushed, I couldn't even watch the rest of the boxing that night. **** was terrible.

[Sweet Jesus]

I'm just saying, you can't expect a division, especially a midget division, to get attention unless it's top contenders are fighting each other or about to fight each other.

[Shadows]

If you watch Mijares against Arce, Navarro, and Munoz then against Sasakul, Darchinyan, and Cermeno his style changed. Mijares boxed a lot more and moved. When fighters would get close, he'd use pocket defense and sway.

The later half, he'd try and move forward and just try to use his pocket defense going forward. Probably the worse gameplan against Darchinyan (Darchinyan looked ****ing great this fight though.)

I always have liked Hasegawa though. I've seen most of his title defenses except for the whole fight against Genaro Garcia. I've only seen parts. Do you happen to have the whole thing?

That's a fair point about Mijares (though I haven't seen the Sasakul fight). However, I think Cermeno dictating the pace of the fight and the fact that he likes to move and moves his hands a lot, likes to clinch, is awkward, etc. played a part as to why Mijares fought that way. That's just my opinion on it.

Sorry, I don't have the fight. I have the following: Ishizuka, Taketazu I and II, Arakawa, Yoshioka, Sithsobha, Maca, Kietprasanchai and after that, every fight from Sahaprom I to Perez, with the exception of the Garcia and Valdez fights. I've seen the whole Valdez fight though.

[The_Demon]

i agree TS

[warp1432]

That's a fair point about Mijares (though I haven't seen the Sasakul fight). However, I think Cermeno dictating the pace of the fight and the fact that he likes to move and moves his hands a lot, likes to clinch, is awkward, etc. played a part as to why Mijares fought that way. That's just my opinion on it.

Sorry, I don't have the fight. I have the following: Ishizuka, Taketazu I and II, Arakawa, Yoshioka, Sithsobha, Maca, Kietprasanchai and after that, every fight from Sahaprom I to Perez, with the exception of the Garcia and Valdez fights. I've seen the whole Valdez fight though.

A lot of people including myself thought Mijares beat Cermeno the first time, but apparently he clearly lost the second. I can't find video of that anywhere thoguh. Cermeno's style definitely impressed the judges though.

[Shadows]

A lot of people including myself thought Mijares beat Cermeno the first time, but apparently he clearly lost the second. I can't find video of that anywhere thoguh. Cermeno's style definitely impressed the judges though.

I've seen the second fight, I had it 116-112 for Cermeno.

Cermeno stayed on the outside and threw a lot. Even though a lot wasn't getting through, Cermeno was turning Mijares or getting out of range before Mijares got off and clinched every now and then.

In the end, Mijares ended up missing or not throwing at all.

This was my scorecard from another thread in the history section:

Nehomar Cermeno vs Cristian Mijares II

1. Cermeno, 10-9
There wasn’t much in this round, but the moments of quality mostly came from Cermeno. He landed some straight rights to the body and head. He back up Mijares across the ring with one to the head, but it was mainly a balance issue. Cermeno is mostly flicking his jab out there. He’s able to get away with it though because he’s moving with he does it, giving Mijares a harder time to counter him.

2. Mijares, 10-9
Close round, as there wasn’t much separating them. Cermeno was more active, albeit more stationary most of his jabs fell were slipped or blocked. Mijares clipped him began to counter him and landed an uppercut while Cermeno was bending over, best punch of the round.

3. Cermeno, 10-9
Cermeno dictated the round. He flicked his jab out there, working the straight right to the body and head, and showing Mijares lateral movement. Mijares is having trouble tracking Cermeno down and mounting an attack. Cermeno is clinching him when he feels as though he’s getting pushed back too much.

4. Cermeno, 10-9
Close round. Cermeno stood his ground more and was more aggressive. He landed a nice straight right, but a lot his combinations were picked off. Mijares did better down the last 45 seconds or so landing some nice shots. However, he was too inactive the first 2+ minutes for me to give it to him based on the work he did do at the end.

5. Mijares, 10-9
Close round. There were many exchanges in this round, and while Cermeno threw more, Mijares was landing the better shots and slipping and blocking more.

6. Cermeno, 10-9
Mijares blocked a lot of what Cermeno was throwing, but he fires nothing back in return. Cermeno wins the round on activity.

7. Cermeno, 10-9
The round starts off fairly even, with maybe a slight edge to Mijares. However, as the rounds gets to around the minute mark, Mijares’ work rate drops off and lets Cermeno get off and fight at the pace he wants.

8. Cermeno, 10-9
Again, Mijares isn’t throwing enough. It’s mainly due to the fact that Cermeno is controlling the tempo of the fight. Cermeno is throwing and then either getting out of range or clinching. It’s not allowing Mijares to get off, and he’s just blocking punches and hitting mostly air.

9. Mijares, 10-9
This was Mijares’ best round in a while. He worked the body in this one, and managed to clip Cermeno much more than in previous rounds. Cermeno looks to be tiring, and he’s a bit more stationary and is getting a bit sloppy.

10. Mijares, 10-9
Mijares lands the clean, harder shots of the course of the round. Over the past two rounds he’s made it a priority to go to the body, it’s something he should’ve done earlier.

11. Cermeno, 10-9
Cermeno did what he’s done pretty much all fight. Throwing punches then stepping off and out of range or turning Mijares, and then clinching every now and then. It’s rendered Mijares pretty ineffective.

12. Cermeno, 10-9
Did pretty much the same as round eleven, and most of the night for that matter. Throwing punches then stepping off and out of range or turning Mijares, and then clinching every now and then.

116-112 (8-4), Nehomar Cermeno

[warp1432]

Do you have a copy of it?

[Shadows]

Do you have a copy of it?

Yeah, I got it off a ******* site. The thing is, it was from a DVD, and the ******* came with three other fights....

EDIT: It's available on WBVA as well. Same uploader....

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I say its the 3rd best Division Behind FW and JWW.