Mikkel Kessler-Daniloa Haussler Moved To Oldenburg

[Dirk Diggler UK]

no "yanks" fight in the 168 division cause they realize its not a real division. it was created to cheer the euros up so they could pretend to dominate something. cong****!

And Yanks are dominating which division again.....?

[The Monk]

I like Kessler, but he needs to realise that a having a belt is not that important anymore. Whats important is that he makes the best fights he can, Sartison and Haussler are poor opponents and after this fight he really needs to step up.

[dstew]

Fine, but people shouldn't complain about Kessler not fighting anyone if potential opponents won't consider him because he 'isn't worth the risk'.

If the money's there then I'm sure Kessler will be able to get a fight with Pavlik, Taylor, Dawson, etc. But his fight with Calzaghe did less than stellar numbers on American TV, especially for non-PPV. Getting HBO to sign on for the kind of money such a fight would deserve is no guarantee, meaning Kessler may benefit greatly from first impressing American audiences with a dominating performance over a Miranda, Green, Lacy, etc.

That's what I meant by "isn't worth the risk." Kessler shouldn't expect a top fighter who makes millions per contest to take a pay cut to fight him, when Mikkel could take ONE smaller payday against a b-tier fighter to get a buzz going, and then make everyone rich his next time out.

Also, history is getting rewritten a little bit here. Has Kessler's unstoppable romp through the SMW division been forgotten, or that just two fights ago he faced one of the best and most famous boxers on earth in Joe Calzaghe?

Yeah, and he lost that fight. Sakio Bika fought Calzaghe a few fights ago as well, and nobody's sucking his balls.

[dstew]

Its telling that Kessler is actually criticising his own fight yet Taylor is trying to sell his as an attraction whilst admitting he's avoiding stiffer comp.

Taylor hasn't said anything about avoiding stiffer competition - that was his promoter. AFAIK Taylor hasn't uttered one word about Froch. Not being a huge boxing fan himself, he probably doesn't even know who Carl Froch is. Sad, but to be fair his job is to fight his fights, not watch other guys fight.

Also, Jeff Lacy is still a bigger name than Daniloa Haussler, and insult Lacy all you want but a win over him will actually serve to boost Taylor's resume while a win over Haussler doesn't mean **** for Mikkel and he knows it, which is why he's criticizing his own fight. So at least Taylor's management is moving in somewhat the right direction, while Kessler's time is being wasted.

[abadger]

If the money's there then I'm sure Kessler will be able to get a fight with Pavlik, Taylor, Dawson, etc. But his fight with Calzaghe did less than stellar numbers on American TV, especially for non-PPV. Getting HBO to sign on for the kind of money such a fight would deserve is no guarantee, meaning Kessler may benefit greatly from first impressing American audiences with a dominating performance over a Miranda, Green, Lacy, etc.

That's what I meant by "isn't worth the risk." Kessler shouldn't expect a top fighter who makes millions per contest to take a pay cut to fight him, when Mikkel could take ONE smaller payday against a b-tier fighter to get a buzz going, and then make everyone rich his next time out.


Yeah, and he lost that fight. Sakio Bika fought Calzaghe a few fights ago as well, and nobody's sucking his balls.

My view is simple. Kessler is as credible a SMW boxer as you are likely to find, being as he's #1 in the division, three time champion and a fringe P4P contender. I have to take issue with the idea that he somehow needs to 'earn' a shot at the other top boxers around his division, its a bit silly.

[dstew]

My view is simple. Kessler is as credible a SMW boxer as you are likely to find, being as he's #1 in the division, three time champion and a fringe P4P contender. I have to take issue with the idea that he somehow needs to 'earn' a shot at the other top boxers around his division, its a bit silly.

I agree that when you look at it in such an idealistic way it's silly.

But when you look at it from a business standpoint, some of Kessler's best prospective opponents are in the U.S., the money is in the U.S., but I question Kessler as a commodity in the U.S. since casual fans haven't had proper exposure to him. I would sincerely hope that the networks would see his appeal and back him for a big money fight, but I'm not sure that's reality at this point.

As much criticism as Joe Calzaghe is getting for fighting "old men", he at least has decided to play the game over the last year by traveling to the U.S., and he's getting paid handsomly for it. He could also pick anyone he wants for his next fight. Kessler may have to play that game as well.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt I am. I personally work with boxing fans who get most PPV events and follow main events on HBO and Showtime, and have had to explain to them who Mikkel Kessler is because they have no idea. Not a good sign.

[BattlingNelson]

I agree that when you look at it in such an idealistic way it's silly.

But when you look at it from a business standpoint, some of Kessler's best prospective opponents are in the U.S., the money is in the U.S., but I question Kessler as a commodity in the U.S. since casual fans haven't had proper exposure to him. I would sincerely hope that the networks would see his appeal and back him for a big money fight, but I'm not sure that's reality at this point.

As much criticism as Joe Calzaghe is getting for fighting "old men", he at least has decided to play the game over the last year by traveling to the U.S., and he's getting paid handsomly for it. He could also pick anyone he wants for his next fight. Kessler may have to play that game as well.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt I am. I personally work with boxing fans who get most PPV events and follow main events on HBO and Showtime, and have had to explain to them who Mikkel Kessler is because they have no idea. Not a good sign.

The sad truth.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Taylor hasn't said anything about avoiding stiffer competition - that was his promoter. AFAIK Taylor hasn't uttered one word about Froch. Not being a huge boxing fan himself, he probably doesn't even know who Carl Froch is. Sad, but to be fair his job is to fight his fights, not watch other guys fight.

Also, Jeff Lacy is still a bigger name than Daniloa Haussler, and insult Lacy all you want but a win over him will actually serve to boost Taylor's resume while a win over Haussler doesn't mean **** for Mikkel and he knows it, which is why he's criticizing his own fight. So at least Taylor's management is moving in somewhat the right direction, while Kessler's time is being wasted.

Thats neither here nor there. I assume Taylor has some say in who he fights and Im sure he wouldnt have his promoter saying "'we're taking an easier fight" if that hadn't been the case. I admire their honesty if anything in that sense.

Although they arent as honest as Kessler who is clearly frustrated and writing off his fight with Haussler. Yet Taylor vs Lacy will be sold as a big attraction on HBO. Kessler is clearly being forced into his waste of time fight whereas Taylor has chosen to take his.

[MWMerlino]

??????????
So you tell me exactly why Kessler wont fight any yanks in the above post. It appears that you agree with me: He is fighting Haussler because he cannot get any yank to share the ring with him. So it's not exactly because he's scared to fight the best, but rather that the best are scared to fight him to use your own logic.

Well no I stated previously that his real mistake was backing out of the Miranda fight at a time where Miranda was still considered dangerous. He chose to fight Sartison and get the WBA title. O.K. Now he has a title that ties him to mandatorys like Haussler. But, also, he hasn't done any calling out and as far as I know, any reaching out to get a fight. You have guys like Froch that are doing all they can to get a bigger fight and move up. Kessler put himself into a corner where he isn't calling out anyone and because he isn't popular or well regarded--therefore Kessler is on a path of weak competition and his career isn't doing anything.

[abadger]

Well no I stated previously that his real mistake was backing out of the Miranda fight at a time where Miranda was still considered dangerous. He chose to fight Sartison and get the WBA title. O.K. Now he has a title that ties him to mandatorys like Haussler. But, also, he hasn't done any calling out and as far as I know, any reaching out to get a fight. You have guys like Froch that are doing all they can to get a bigger fight and move up. Kessler put himself into a corner where he isn't calling out anyone and because he isn't popular or well regarded--therefore Kessler is on a path of weak competition and his career isn't doing anything.

I believe Kessler has publicly announced that his goal is a fight with Pavlik. Don't have a quote, but I'm pretty sure that that is correct.