does WK belong on the p4p list?

[lparm]

Heavyweight usually dont make the P4P list, the last heavy on the list I can think of was Lewis and that was after years of domination. Usually the critics go with the smaller guys probably because they can hop divisions and its probably an easier way to measure how good P4P someone is.

[T-97]

This guy above eats dictionaries for breakfast.



I can't see why Wlad wouldn't be p4p by now. How many title fights has he won in a row?
It's a lot.

Nah, I got it from ww.dictionary.com.

His win streak started with the Williamson win. And has not lost since. Since that fight he is 9-0 6KO.

[Dan...]

I think Wlad is borderline p4p at the moment. I think I probably have him at 9 or 10. Heavys get a rough deal on p4p lists IMO.

[slicksouthpaw16]

No, hes not on mine anyway. The heavyweight division is currently the weakest division going right now, so dominating that will not do you any good on pound for pound ratings. He has not beaten an elite fighter at heavyweight. When the heavyweight division was at least a little good he was being knocked out. No disrespect to him of course. Hes a very good fighter. Its just his lack of opposition. I don't think much of any of the other champions.

[WLAD OWNS]

No, hes not on mine anyway. The heavyweight division is currently the weakest division going right now, so dominating that will not do you any good on pound for pound ratings. He has not beaten an elite fighter at heavyweight. When the heavyweight division was at least a little good he was being knocked out. No disrespect to him of course. Hes a very good fighter. Its just his lack of opposition. I don't think much of any of the other champions.

cruiserweight and light middleweight are the 2 weakest divisions

The heavyweight division is fine, it's just the matchmaking that needs to get better.

Wlad's dominance and impressive resume should get him into the top 10 p4p.

Wlad's wins:

Chris Byrd twice
Samuel Peter
Sultan Ibragimov
Lamon Brewster
Calvin Brock
Ray Mercer
Jameel McCline
Tony Thompson
Monte Barrett
etc....

You can add Alexander Povetkin to that list as well

Wlad is definitely a top 10 p4p fighter

[larryx]

why not heavy weight champ with what 4 defenses??? hell margo beat cotto and poped into the top ten

[kenso]

why is he not p4p? i dont see any reason not. i dont see any of the other fighters on the p4p cleaning out the division as effectively as he has.

in my book wlad has 2 real losses, 1 to corrie sanders, and 1 to ross purity which is old and dead.

the brewster loss.... wlads blood sugar level was 3-4x HIGHER than normal after the fight. to think that something was not wrong with wlads health on a serious level is ignorant. watch wlads fights, thats the only fight he has ever tired in, and even after the fight stopped, he did not gain energy back, he sat on his stool and appeared like he was barely concious. something was ****ed up with him. before his body started failing, he was whooping the dog **** out of brewster. also if you watch the film, brewster never landed any truly clean shots, they were all partial blows or grazing/pushing shots. wlad was wiped, brewster didnt have **** to do with it. if you think otherwise you are simply a hater or a ****ing idiot, maybe both.

the sanders loss, he got knocked the **** out, sanders did exactly the right thing, laid it all on the line and wlad learned alot from that and has matured.

have you ever seen anyone dodge less fighters than the klitschkos? they fight EVERYBODY they possibly can. all the manditories, and everything else.

also you can only take hayes **** talk with a grain of salt, as hes being such a sissy over picking an opponent in a division he has yet to fight in and if you talked to him, hed have you thinking hes already knocked out klitschko and unified all 4 titles.


IMO klitschko needs to be on the p4p list, he has as an impressive resume as he possibly can and has equal skills as pretty much every other fighter on the p4p list.

roy jones jr got #1 p4p by beating mostly no-names, klitschko is fighting the biggest names he can get, never dodges, wins convincingly, and he still isnt ranked.

just my 2 cents.

[kenso]

HE DOESNT DESERVE TO BE ON THERE


he is much bigger than many opponents he has faced...and uses his size excessively, not pure skills

and he has a boring style, and a crap list of opponents and potential opponents (bar haye)

haye will spark him no doubt

haye is what boxing needs, he is going to be a dominant heavyweight who talks ****

boxing needs that....as heavyweight is traditionally a strong division

dumbest post ive read today.

i bet youd say haye should be on the p4p after beating a fighter who you say shouldnt be ranked p4p.

[The Gambler1981]

I voted no but it has nothing to do with how good I think Wlad is. I do not think heavyweights should be in the P4P rankings. There is boxing and there is Heavyweight boxing, P4P is for everyone else to get some shine because heavies when the division is good soak up the majority of the spotlight.

[Banderivets]

He has not beaten an elite fighter at heavyweight. .

If he keeps knocking mans out (regardles of how good they are) there will never be an elite fighter on his KOed list.

How can he ever beat an elite fighter if he never allows a fighter to reach their full potential by beating them?

An elite fighter would mean that there would be someone parallel to Wlad dominating the divsion like Wlad is, and then somehow they meet (but then, why wouldnt they meet earlier)

Know what Im saying?


How do you see an "elite" fighter come into the division now? What like a young talent with 30-0 record with power, speed and chin? Now will he be elite once Wlad knocks him out? Or he will turn into a nobody like any young undefeated prospect that Wlad beat.

****, Tyson was elite.....was it his fault that he made a bunch of guys look like ****ing tomato cans with the rate he was knocking them out? **** for all we know all those guys he disposed of might have been very good boxers.