Miguel Cotto Welcomes a Margarito Rematch Next June

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

Some of you forgot the type of beat down Cotto got in their 1st fight, yes he did pretty good in the begining but by the end of the fight he was a beaten man, the type of beat down that you feal weeks later.

[IwatchBoxing]

Even if he wins he gots to beat a top fighter now to get on a pound for pound list again, lets hope its not PPV

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

You can't compare Chavez & Taylor. Those guys were incredibly skilled fighters. Margarito is a one dimensional fighter, which works for him, but with minor adjustments Cotto can pull out a win.

The way you beat Margarito is circling around him and boxing him. Cotto made the mistake of leaning against the ropes to counter Margs punches that were landing throughout the fight.

Though Margarito's got the tougher chin, I don't know if he can take the same amount of punches again from Cotto who's going to be the hungrier fighter this time around. It won't be a repeat of last July IMO.

That's just wishfull thinking. Cotto doesn't have the movement, stamina or boxing skill tokeep Marg off of him for 12 rounds.

Nothing should make you think that Marg can't take those punches again. Have you seen every single one of this guys fights? He took much harder and more punches IMO in the Clottey fight. The only difference is that Clottey stood in front of him.

Cotto fought the perfect fight and lost. Chavez vs Taylor was a very good analogy because even though Chavez is a much better boxer than Marg will ever be, he was getting beaten to the punch by Taylor just as bad. The only difference waas that Taylor was a much better mover and boxer than Cotto so he did a better job of staying away.

A beating like this makes you a different fighter, not only physically but mentally. I don't know if Cotto can recover from a fight like this and because of the size, strength, chin differences, I don't see the fight coming out any different than last time with the exception of Cotto getting KO'd even faster.

I really do hope Cotto listens to all of you fans because you guys keep telling him to stand and trade, throw to the body and that will end the fight even quicker.

[da_beast]

OK ur absolutley right!...

That was Margarito's easiest victory-to-date..

Part II will play out exactly the same...infact with Cotto lookin Like Khan did last week!..

Sorry..shoulda known better that Margarito is beyond human..

you know **** if you think that was his easiest victory to date you deluded fool.

[anonymousboxing]

Not that it mattered! He didn't have to, it was'nt like Marg landed a lucky shot to end it. I honestly thing a rematch would have the same outcome.

I agree. We're not talking about 1 shot that Marg got lucky with. We're talking about a fighter who seems to have Cotto's '******nite' - that incredible IRON chin & good body defense. Cotto's skills were superior, but it didn't matter because unlike all his former opponents who were kept at bay because of Cotto's bombs, Marg walked right through them to smother him.

...He's seemed winded in most if not all of his fights. Especially true as he's gone up in weight.

No way! Cotto was resisting his natural weight to stay in Super Lightweight. Stepping up a notch in division made things more comfortable for him.
EVEN IF he was "winded" like YOU say, it DID NOT affect his performance if you've watched all his fights. How often do we see a boring fight from Cotto because he's clinching to catch his breath? No way.

...Develop an iron chin? Tell me how.

From the little we saw in the countdown, it seemed his training might've been routinish. Similar training to what he's done to win all his other fights. With the right motivation, a more extreme training regiment would help in this department. The more stress exerted on the body before the fight, the more stress it could handle - including KO resistance.

No Clottey blocked more punches, you must not have watched Margarito-Clottey because Margarito barley landed up stairs. The majority that did land was to the body. Cotto did in fact slip a number of Margarito's punches, but what I meant to say was he can't do that over & over again in front of Margarito all night. I can see him getting hit either way. I do believe he can beat Margarito too, but he needs a revised plan.

YES!!! He CAN'T slip by Marg's attack all night!
And WHATEVER game plan Cotto comes back with, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, I have doubts that everything will go according to plan in an unpredictable environment like the ring.

...Cotto wouldn't take this fight at all if he wasn't confident and didn't recognize his mistakes..he knows what he did wrong and will correct it..he was ****ing Margarito up BAD with all the wrong plans tho right?..now imagine with his new revised plan?..

I thought about this too. People don't recognize Cotto's talent for having 'ring-intelligence', he's a SMART fighter. But I wonder how much he's thought about his mistakes. Supposedly he has YET to watch footage of the fight. (check out the quote below)..

... Cotto dint even want to watch the fights weeks later.. he even said he has not seen it... on SOLO BOXEO... man.. i bet its like a big nightmare for him...

I didn't see this interview on Solo Boxeo myself, but if this is true, I wonder how much revision Cotto could do without at least watching his errors.
Even if he DOESN'T have to watch this footage to come up with a "revised" game plan like you say, NOT WATCHING THE VIDEO says something.

He's still fighting his 'inner demons', which means he's got alot of work to do in order to get his mental edge back, which is KEY for resilience in the ring. Cotto has to BELIEVE in himself.

Cotto was also..obviously distracted due to a broken nose and still went 9 rds ****in Margs with a severely broken nose!!..yet he gets no credit?..

True! ANYONE who discredits EITHER of these 2 fighters has their face too close to the canvas of their biased opinions. Back up and look at the big picture!!! These guys have accomplished much more than ANY of us!

.... IDIOT if you missed the punch that wobbled Cotto in the second round.

What's your point? That Cotto started losing the WHOLE fight from the 2nd round on because he got 'wobbled'? He was ok the 1st half, both newbie & 'expert' boxing fans recognize this, you don't?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Anonymous said:

From the little we saw in the countdown, it seemed his training might've been routinish. Similar training to what he's done to win all his other fights. With the right motivation, a more extreme training regiment would help in this department. The more stress exerted on the body before the fight, the more stress it could handle - including KO resistance.

I have been invloved in Boxing since I was 13, I'm 35 now. I fought amature and train fighters in a small gym and I have never seen anything that trianers have done or tried to do that has helped a fighter with a weak chin.

I agree with your post and I thought it well thought through.

The only thing I disagree with is the fact you can improve a fighters chin. A fighter is born with 3 things that are natural:

1- Speed

2- Power

3- Chin

You can improve speed and power to a certian extent but when a fighter has natural power or speed, those are gifts from God. You can train all day long and you won't achieve the power Tyson had or the speed that Leonard had.

Same goes for a chin like Margs, he just has "it".

[anonymousboxing]

I have been invloved in Boxing since I was 13, I'm 35 now. I fought amature and train fighters in a small gym and I have never seen anything that trianers have done or tried to do that has helped a fighter with a weak chin.

I agree with your post and I thought it well thought through.

The only thing I disagree with is the fact you can improve a fighters chin. A fighter is born with 3 things that are natural:

1- Speed

2- Power

3- Chin

You can improve speed and power to a certian extent but when a fighter has natural power or speed, those are gifts from God. You can train all day long and you won't achieve the power Tyson had or the speed that Leonard had.

Same goes for a chin like Margs, he just has "it".

Yea, I knew you had to be a boxer. I could tell by the history of posts I've read.
Every once in a while, I bump into QUALITY posts, which makes filtering through the close-minded-uneducated posts almost worth it.

One of the most "refreshing" thread posts I've ever read on Boxing Scene relates to the chin topic, we're talking about it. Check this out...

Hydration is a significant factor when it comes to punch-resistance.
Anyone who's ever boxed when dehydrated will testify to this.
If you are dehydrated, punches will feel like bricks to your head. You will feel a strong discomfort following every sudden motion of your head, not only punches but also twists and turns, jumps and side to side movements.

Your vision will take longer to settle, your focus will be off and you will lose your ability to think sharp.

Training will also have a great factor in your chin. During hard and intensive training, you force the body to adapt to physical strain.
That part is easy. The hard part is getting yourself to train so hard that you strengthen the mind as well.
This part can only be trained when you think you are done, but you still continue.

And this is why some people get better when they face good opposition;
they "get up" and get motivated enough to train as hard as they can, thus coming into the fights in tip top shape. Mentally and physically.

This can also explain how some people can take punches from the best, but get knocked out by the lesser...

And being cold-****ed in round one can happen to anyone.

This guy here seems to have his stuff TOGETHER. I checked with my brother on this. He's a coach. He confirmed it, and that was good enough for me.
Your thoughts?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Yea, I knew you had to be a boxer. I could tell by the history of posts I've read.
Every once in a while, I bump into QUALITY posts, which makes filtering through the close-minded-uneducated posts almost worth it.

One of the most "refreshing" thread posts I've ever read on Boxing Scene relates to the chin topic, we're talking about it. Check this out...




This guy here seems to have his stuff TOGETHER. I checked with my brother on this. He's a coach. He confirmed it, and that was good enough for me.
Your thoughts?

Well I will be honest with you, I'm abit old school and I don't dispute that. I just don't agree that you can take a weak chined fighter and all of a sudden make him have good wiskers.

I know that when your tired or dehydrated, you are more prone to getting hurt, no doubt. I just think when you look at fighters like Chavez, Margarito, Baldomir, they just have "it".

You can't train someone's chin to be that strong. That's why a good trainer will always train a fighter to his/her strengths, not try and mold them into what he wants them to be.

I'm sure there is new training methods that can improve mayeb even your chin but I guarantee you that Margarito will always be able to take Cotto's punch while Cotto will not be able to take Margarito's punch no matter how hard or what method Cotto uses.

Cotto is the better boxer but Marg just willed his way to a win and I don't see that changing. It's kind of like Barerra vs Junior Jones, Barerra was the better boxer and will go down as a legend but just couldn't beat Jones no matter how he fought.

[ericsantos]

Cotto/Margarito 2

Miguel Cotto Quote- "Este Mexicano es mi PAPA"

Miguel is showing a lot of confidence right now, he is wants to get back in the ring with the guy that just wooped him in the last few rounds of their first encounter and is not showing any fear.look at Margarito he dont even want to hear of a Williams or Santos rematch so this tells you a little bit about their hearts

[luchadores]

Cotto Will Take The Rematch.

Cotto Will Make Adjustments.

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