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  • #51
    Originally posted by The Iron Man View Post
    Sorry its the truth it may Hurt.
    truth??.....shut the hell up Limey boy

    It's just your ******ed OPINION
    Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 09-10-2008, 03:21 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by T-97 View Post
      I disagree, but;

      Check my edit. I misread it.
      He definatley wouldnt be above the 2nd half. And probably the 3/4. I am saying he wouldnt beat them in a boxing fight, he would beat many of them. I am going on greatness. And how they compared in that era. or eras around them. Not comparing Sullivan against Lewis or Jeffries against Tyson.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by kenso View Post
        how about this, if wladimir scored all first round kos for the rest of his career, when would people finally lay off?

        who would he have to beat?
        The *******s would then say the opponents were no good.

        No matter whad he does, some people will never give him credit.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View Post
          truth??.....shut your mouth Limey boy

          It's just your ******ed OPINION
          Who has he beat worth mentioning? His not even the Undisputed Champ at the moment and this is the worst state the division has ever been in.

          He has potential to be alot higher but at the moment as lineal champs go his not a brilliant one. Im no Hater i would love for someone to take control of this division..

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          • #55
            Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
            what about Frank "The Great Brit" Bruno, a str8 bum!
            He got robbed in both Tyson fights!!

            Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View Post
            truth??.....shut your mouth Limey boy

            It's just your ******ed OPINION


            Originally posted by The Iron Man View Post
            He definatley wouldnt be above the 2nd half. And probably the 3/4. I am saying he wouldnt beat them in a boxing fight, he would beat many of them. I am going on greatness. And how they compared in that era. or eras around them. Not comparing Sullivan against Lewis or Jeffries against Tyson.
            I agree, I don't rate them on a head to head fight. Wlad-Louis is a huge size adbantage for Wlad, so he could very well win. But he is not as great as Louis in history. However, I would rate him aboce the likes of Rahman and that lot (Sorry, too tired to think of the names off top of head)

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            • #56
              Originally posted by T-97 View Post
              But he is not as great as Louis in history. However, I would rate him aboce the likes of Rahman and that lot (Sorry, too tired to think of the names off top of head)
              Exactly, there are alot of great names on that list. I agree he should be ranked above Rahman, Douglas...

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              • #57
                Thing is he's not THE heavyweight champion. yet if you consider him just a title holder (which he is) then there have been far worse.

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                • #58
                  Wlad is one of the more dominant Champions. He's beaten just about every top fighter and would be heavily favored to beat every HW in the world right now. Manny has made Wlad a more boring fighter, but he's also made him almost invincible.

                  If Wlad wins his next 4-7 fights and unifies the division he will go down as an All-Time great, like it or not!

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                  • #59
                    The worst? No, Close to being the worst? Yes.

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                    • #60
                      Wlad cops a lot of hate on this forum that he doesn't deserve. Firstly, it is not really his fault that there aren't other superstars around for him to fight. Someone's alt criticised him the other day and I asked who he should fight. His answers were Sam Peter and David Haye, one of whom he has beaten and the other is not even legitimately ranked in the division yet. He has been in boring fights of late but that has mainly been due to the fact that his opponents were there for the pay-day, knew they did not have a chance and thus fought extremely defensively.

                      Wladimir is well on the way to becoming an ATG heavy IMO. He has some questionable losses that the true ATGs of the division do not have, but he is still a very good champion.

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