Is Wlad the worst Heavyweight champ?

[ALT-Assassin]

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Tunney,why do Slavic people hate David Haye?

[Allucard]

Do you guys think Wlad is one of the worst heavyweight champs of recent times , Obviously some of the belt holders like Seldon where worse but I think Wlad is one of the worst recognized champs for a long time.

Well not quite. I fail to grasp how people consider Klitschko so bad and have people like Floyd Peterson and Rocky Marciano as all time greats. All three mentioned fighters were very dear to the public (except Wlad for some reason) but faced very bad competition. Still i think Wlad has easily beat some people the other 2 would have problems against because he outweighs and towers over most his opponents so badly. Still...

[Clegg]

Wlad is better than a fair few on that list..

The Ali on there is the one that beat Leon Spinks in the rematch, correct?

Yep.

I rate Wlad above Douglas, and the Ali that fought Spinks.

I have not seen Spinks-Holmes so I'm not sure how Wlad measures up to Michael Spinks.

[Davros?]

Dam i wasn't thinking when i posted this i completely forgot about Douglas for some reason his performance against Holyfield was hopeless, and i think that an old Foreman could beat Wlad just by outlasting him and winning in similar fashion to his win over Moorer. I am not talking about paper belt holders like dokes, seldon, bruno, hyde etc etc etc, and i am talking bout the 30 years or so.

[Mayfeather]

Wouldnt say he is the worst champ ever but I agree with Ryn0's point

[Davros?]

Every comment Duffgun has ever made about East European boxers since 2006 has been negative.

He has admitted to hating them.

For example, he posted "I hate these communist conks"

That was a joke

[Addition]

That was a joke

Is that why you got banned?

[The Iron Man]

Compared to other proper champs like :

John L. Sullivan
James J. Corbett
Bob Fitzsimmons
James J. Jeffries
Marvin Hart
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Jess Willard
Jack Depmsey
Gene Tunney
Max Schmeling
Jack Sharkey
Primo Carnera
Max Baer
James J. Braddock
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Jersey Joe Walcott
Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Sonny Liston
Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman.
Leon Spinks
Larry Holmes
Michael Spinks
Mike Tyson
James Douglas
Evander Holyfield
Rid**** Bowe
Michael Moorer
Shannon Briggs.
Lennox Lewis
Hasim Rahman

Then yeh he ranks pretty low Bottom 5.

[Clegg]

Is that why you got banned?

I think it was because of the Adolf Hitler alt.

[Clegg]

Compared to other proper champs like :

John L. Sullivan
James J. Corbett
Bob Fitzsimmons
James J. Jeffries
Marvin Hart
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Jess Willard
Jack Depmsey
Gene Tunney
Max Schmeling
Jack Sharkey
Primo Carnera
Max Baer
James J. Braddock
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Jersey Joe Walcott
Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Sonny Liston
Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman.
Leon Spinks
Larry Holmes
Michael Spinks
Mike Tyson
James Douglas
Evander Holyfield
Rid**** Bowe
Michael Moorer
Shannon Briggs.
Lennox Lewis
Hasim Rahman

Then yeh he ranks pretty low Bottom 5.

I have a lot of respect for the champions of 60+ years ago, but I don't think that they were all better than Wlad. I haven't seen most of them, but people like Carnera wouldn't be top 20 if they were fighting today IMO.

I think Wlad is better than Rahman, Briggs, Leon Spinks and several of the older guys.