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  • BlackHat
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    #11
    Many people thinks close fights as robbery because they are being biased since the boxer they are rooting for looses. I say close fights could gone either way and we cant complain about that. Judges are only humans who also commits mistakes. Also different judges has different point of views on how to score their cards like others like to give scores to the aggressor, others are satisfid with jabs, and others looks who lands the harder blows. Judges scores the fight in real time, they dont have the luxury to watch replays of each round and they only have one angle view of the fight so 1 of the judges might see clean blows while the other 2 miss it.

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    • abadger
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      #12
      Originally posted by danc1984
      Its funny how two ppl can watch the same fight and just see it totally differently. I have watched it several times now, scored it four and I haven't been able to give it to JLC as of yet. I could accept a draw at a stretch but I usually end up with Mayweather taking it 114-112.
      It is very strange, and it shows how subjective scoring is. I think that in a round in which the two boxers are competitive it is usually possible to score it for either boxer with some degree of justification. If I have a weakness as a scorer I think its that i probably have a tendency to favour evenness, so for every round I give to one guy I get that much more likely to give one to the other guy. I was pretty careful with my Mayweather Castillo score though, and am pretty sure that's that i think.

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      • Ray*
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        #13
        Originally posted by Melly-Mel
        any close fight can really never be a robbery, unless the scoring is ultra ****ed up.


        Thats the way i think to be honest, When a fight is close then it isnt a robbery IMO if the fight goes either way.

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        • Dan...
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          #14
          Originally posted by abadger
          It is very strange, and it shows how subjective scoring is. I think that in a round in which the two boxers are competitive it is usually possible to score it for either boxer with some degree of justification. If I have a weakness as a scorer I think its that i probably have a tendency to favour evenness, so for every round I give to one guy I get that much more likely to give one to the other guy. I was pretty careful with my Mayweather Castillo score though, and am pretty sure that's that i think.
          Yeah it is really important to try and guard against this I think. In that fight I had Mayweather up 5 rounds to 1 after 6, I just didn't think Castillo did enough in those early rounds to take them and he left himself with too much to do.

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          • Gato2012
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            #15
            Fernando Vargas vs Winky Wright

            close fight, not a robbery. Wright blew it in the last round, damn Winky sucks at 12th rounds.

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            • The Hammer
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              #16
              Calzaghe vs. Hopkins
              Dawson vs. Johnson
              Branco vs. Johnson
              Hatton vs. Collazo
              Hopkins vs. Taylor I & II
              Hopkins vs. Wright

              Calzaghe vs. Reid was clearly NOT a robbery, the two American judges scored it right, the English judge was biased in favor of Reid

              Castillo vs. Mayweather I was definitely a robbery.

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              • Derranged
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                #17
                I will also add...

                Taylor v Wright. Very close.....

                Jones v Tarver I. NOT A ROBBERY. Tarver is a baby.

                Calzaghe v. Hopkins.... How anybody can call this a robbery is beyond me.

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                • abadger
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Son of God
                  The lord thinks you are biased. The fact that you can see that there were close rounds that someone else might score differently and you still think it was a robbery only proves my point.

                  the word of the lord
                  I'm kind of a Mayweather fan, so i don't think I'm biased, and I don't think the fact that I acknowledge there were close rounds makes me biased either, if anything its the opposite. That kind of thing has to go both ways. I personally think that to score the fight for Mayweather you would have to go over it with a fine tooth comb on replay looking for every single clean shot he landed in an effort to prove he didn't lose, whereas based on all around criteria, such as effective punching, aggression, ring generalship (in short, "who won") I don't see any other verdict than to give it to Castillo. For that reason I do regard it as something of a robbery.

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                  • Pugilistic™
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tunney
                    Calzaghe vs. Hopkins
                    Dawson vs. Johnson
                    Branco vs. Johnson
                    Hatton vs. Collazo
                    Hopkins vs. Taylor I & II
                    Hopkins vs. Wright

                    Calzaghe vs. Reid was clearly NOT a robbery, the two American judges scored it right, the English judge was biased in favor of Reid

                    Castillo vs. Mayweather I was definitely a robbery.
                    I have never heard anyone call those fights robberies.

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                    • El Dominicano
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      Yeah it is really important to try and guard against this I think. In that fight I had Mayweather up 5 rounds to 1 after 6, I just didn't think Castillo did enough in those early rounds to take them and he left himself with too much to do.
                      Yeah but don't make it seem like JLC didn't do anything Cuz you gotta admit JLC kicked ass. I had Mayweather up by 3 rounds...it was a close fight and there were close rounds. I wouldn't have argued if JLC would have gotta the win. Personally, I feel that if Mayweather would have lost...he wouldn't be to cautious about losing his 0 and we'd see a much better fighter in Floyd

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