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  • #21
    he didn't carry ****.dude was gun shy.he thought the same **** many people thought if tito catches him flush he could go down.don't go fronting like he was doing tito a favor when he was being a ****ing jackass threw out the fight.he should ktfo tito early.period.and don't give me that bull**** McClellan story.the more a fight goes on the more punches a fighter takes the more the possibility of someone getting hurt badly.getting ktfo with having taken few shots its better than taking twelve rounds of punishment.roy fans be on some delusional **** some times.seriously.what the ****.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA View Post
      he didn't carry ****.dude was gun shy.he thought the same **** many people thought if tito catches him flush he could go down.don't go fronting like he was doing tito a favor when he was being a ****ing jackass threw out the fight.he should ktfo tito early.period.and don't give me that bull**** McClellan story.the more a fight goes on the more punches a fighter takes the more the possibility of someone getting hurt badly.getting ktfo with having taken few shots its better than taking twelve rounds of punishment.roy fans be on some delusional **** some times.seriously.what the ****.
      I dont think he carried Tito, and in fact, Tito came out very strong during the first 4-5 rounds.

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      • #23
        Would someone tell me what "carrying" means?!?!???

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        • #24
          I don't think Roy carried Tito. The fight was quite competitive until the later rounds, it was simply a case of Roy doing what he usually did, boxing conservatively to win in the safest, least risky way possible.

          I think talk of Roy carrying Tito is just wishful thinking on the part of Roy fans who would like to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes about how far Roy is gone, in order to find a way to believe he can beat Calzaghe.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by abadger View Post
            I don't think Roy carried Tito. The fight was quite competitive until the later rounds, it was simply a case of Roy doing what he usually did, boxing conservatively to win in the safest, least risky way possible.

            I think talk of Roy carrying Tito is just wishful thinking on the part of Roy fans who would like to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes about how far Roy is gone, in order to find a way to believe he can beat Calzaghe.
            If you mean "Gone" in the sense of not being the same fighter that he was from 94-2004, then yes Roy is gone. Then again is Calz the same fighter he was from say 99-2006? No. No fighter is going to be the same ya know. They will have to compensate for a lack of what they once had physically. Do I think Roy has a chance, Absolutely, not because I wanna hold on to what h e was, but becuase there flaws in Calz game that suits Roy. My posts above explain y I think Roy has a chance. Roy didn't carry Tito, Tito was just way above any weight he should ever think about fighting at, and he your right that Roy did exactly what he knew he could do to secure a victory with the least amount of risk. Make Tito come forward and potshot.

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            • #26
              Roy Jones has done this throughout his career but it's never been because hw as carrying them. He's just a cautious fighter. Carrying is when you don't wanna hurt the other guy out of respect. If Roy really felt that way he wouldn't have fought Tito in the first place.

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              • #27
                I think he was, he didn't even bother jumping on Trinidad when he knocked him down the first time.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                  I think he was, he didn't even bother jumping on Trinidad when he knocked him down the first time.
                  ^^^Bingo.

                  They weren't devastating knockdowns, though. The first one was a delayed reaction/equilibrium blow that made Trinidad go down on both knees after like 2 seconds (it was strange). The second knockdown was Roy throwing a straight, Tito coming INTO the punch, and he was knocked off balance (weak knockdown).

                  I agree Jones could've hurt him after the first knockdown, but I think Jones seemed stronger than Trinidad whenever he connected. The first rounds belonged to Trinidad (if I remember correctly) but afterwards Jones had him figured out. It wasn't lopsided, but you could tell Jones was clearly winning the rounds (if not edging it), and the punches weren't pitty-patty punches, he was hurting Tito sometimes.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ThePen2 View Post
                    ^^^Bingo.

                    They weren't devastating knockdowns, though. The first one was a delayed reaction/equilibrium blow that made Trinidad go down on both knees after like 2 seconds (it was strange). The second knockdown was Roy throwing a straight, Tito coming INTO the punch, and he was knocked off balance (weak knockdown).

                    I agree Jones could've hurt him after the first knockdown, but I think Jones seemed stronger than Trinidad whenever he connected. The first rounds belonged to Trinidad (if I remember correctly) but afterwards Jones had him figured out. It wasn't lopsided, but you could tell Jones was clearly winning the rounds (if not edging it), and the punches weren't pitty-patty punches, he was hurting Tito sometimes.
                    Trinidad was dazed after the first knocked down, I think he swayed on his knees before getting back up, if Jones had jumped on him at that point I wouldn't have been surprised if Trinidad got hurt even worse and possibly even getting stopped but I'm not sure if it was Jones not wanting to jump on Trinidad or him not having enough left to put forth a concerted effort to knock Trinidad out.

                    What I didn't like about Jones in that fight was that when Trinidad pushed forward, Jones went backward without much of a struggle, whether he did this on purpose or not, I do not know.

                    And I agree, Trinidad won possibly 3 of the first 4 rounds before Jones took over.

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                    • #30
                      i always thought he carried hanshaw because he was just an up and coming kid.. youd see roy step back and let him recover when he was stunned and youd see hanshaw nod in appreciation. but i dont know about tito tito was throwing some heavy hands early.. maybe roy was just doing a rope a dope who knows

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