The Tocker Pudwill appreciation thread!

[T-97]

He accomplished something that Mundine couldn't!

Exactly! Mundine took shots off Kessler who managed to stun the Iron Chinned Calzaghe, but couldn't take Ottkes huge shots! That shows that Prime Tocker Pudwill had the best chin P4P, In history!

[abadger]

Personally I think that Pudwill should be higher than Kid Fire, He showed true heart. Kid Fire had full notice of the fight, Like Tunney said Tocker took the fight on short notice (Because he is a WARRIOR). He showed his iron chin in the thriller with Ottke was well, the notorious puncher Ottke couldn't budge the iron chin of Tocker Pudwill.

It is simply Kid Fire's ability to be a redneck whilst also having red hair, and the way he took up boxing only as a means to fight back against the bullies who picked on him for it that elevates him above Pudwill in my eyes.

Pudwill was a redneck too, but he was always destined for greatness, Kid Fire had to fight his way to the top.

Bright lights, dark shadows.

[T-97]

It is simply Kid Fire's ability to be a redneck whilst also having red hair, and the way he took up boxing only as a means to fight back against the bullies who picked on him for it that elevates him above Pudwill in my eyes.

Pudwill was a redneck too, but he was always destined for greatness, Kid Fire had to fight his way to the top.

Bright lights, dark shadows.

If I am thinking correctly, Kid Fire fought the now world famous Stacey Goodson, I may be wrong. But when I viewed his Resume of excellence that was one of the wins that stood out most to me.

[Clegg]

How can you guys rate Pudwill so highly when he's clearly ducking Margarito?

[T-97]

How can you guys rate Pudwill so highly when he's clearly ducking Margarito?

Prime Vs Prime it's a no contest. Pudwill would break him up, and make Margarito look like a joke. Prime Pudwill was a force to be reconed with, why do you think Roy Jones ducked him???? He knew what Pudwill could do.

[Clegg]

Prime Vs Prime it's a no contest. Pudwill would break him up, and make Margarito look like a joke. Prime Pudwill was a force to be reconed with, why do you think Roy Jones ducked him???? He knew what Pudwill could do.

Pudwill KO'd Jones in sparring.

I think he could beat a gorilla.

[abadger]

If I am thinking correctly, Kid Fire fought the now world famous Stacey Goodson, I may be wrong. But when I viewed his Resume of excellence that was one of the wins that stood out most to me.

It is always a pleasure discussing boxing with you T-97, your knowledge is unsurpassed. Goodson was a tremendous fighter and as we know, a legend among the boxing cognoscenti.

Many cannot see past his 37 - 37 - 2 record and dismiss him as a jouneyman, but those with the facts know that far from being beaten, Goodson would lose his fights on purpose, owing to his strange obsession with the number 2 and later in his career, with things being even. No-one knows if he suffered from OCD or autism or not, but if so it only makes his achievements more remarkable! Those of us who saw his final fight know just how pleased he was to round off his career with 37 victories, 37 losses and of course, 2 bouts even. Sadly he had originally intended to do this on his 37th birthday, but his final opponent, the great Donnell Holmes supposed 'injury' put paid to that delaying the bout by two days and robbing Goodson of his crowning glory. Goodson never forgave him.

What makes Goodson's fight with McKintyre such a great one was that it was that fight which saw the genesis of his 37 - 37 - 2 odyssey. Entering the fight he was on the crest of a wave because having achieved a career record of 11 - 22 - 2 he had planned to retire, not believing he could top being able to divide his losses by his number of draws to give his number of wins, but the chance to fight McKintyre was one he could not pass up. Having taken the fight he knew he would have no choice but to pursue even greater statistical exactitude and the great fighter we know today was born. Obviously it was always sad that Goodson could not mark the occasion with a win, indeed suffering the only 'real' loss of his career, but this only goes to show what a great fighter McKintyre was, and besides, it is only really sad for we Goodson fans, one anamolous loss had no significance for the mathematically minded Goodson, he had his sights set on much greater things.

[T-97]

It is always a pleasure discussing boxing with you T-97, your knowledge is unsurpassed. Goodson was a tremendous fighter and as we know, a legend among the boxing cognoscenti.

Thank you Mr. Badger, Your knowledge is also top notch

What makes Goodson's fight with McKintyre such a great one was that it was that fight which saw the genesis of his 37 - 37 - 2 odyssey and he wanted to mark it with a win. Entering the fight he was on the crest of a wave because having achieved a career record of 11 - 22 - 2 he had planned to retire, not believing he could top being able to divide his losses by his number of draws to give his number of wins, but the chance to fight McKintyre was one could not pass up. Having taken the fight he knew he would have no choice but to pursue even greater statistical exactitude and the great fighter we know today was born. Obviously it was always sad that Goodson could not mark the occasion with a win, indeed suffering the only 'real' loss of his career, but this only goes to show what a great fighter McKintyre was, and besides, it is only really sad for we Goodson fans, one anamolous loss had no significance for the mathematically minded Goodson, he had his sights set on much greater things.

Kid Fire proved his worth in this fight, Remember that Goodson was naturally bigger and was a good fighter. Kid Fire showed he could handle bigger men, marking him as a P4P Genious. I rate him around 7 or 8 in my all time list just above Kabary Salem, but below Byron Mitchell.

[abadger]

Thank you Mr. Badger, Your knowledge is also top notch



Kid Fire proved his worth in this fight, Remember that Goodson was naturally bigger and was a good fighter. Kid Fire showed he could handle bigger men, marking him as a P4P Genious. I rate him around 7 or 8 in my all time list just above Kabary Salem, but below Byron Mitchell.

Mitchell's qualities are undeniable, but I struggle sometimes with ranking Salem anywhere inside the top 15. Without doubt Salem could destroy most fighters in history, but with Hopkins and Bika so high on the list already is there really room for another headbutt-and-hold merchant? Salem deserves acclaim certainly, but Bika and Hopkins are the superior cheaters.

[T-97]

Mitchell's qualities are undeniable, but I struggle sometimes with ranking Salem anywhere inside the top 15. Without doubt Salem could destroy most fighters in history, but with Hopkins and Bika so high on the list already is there really room for another headbutt-and-hold merchant? Salem deserves acclaim certainly, but Bika and Hopkins are the superior cheaters.

That's true, but I think Salem is P4P a harder hitter than Bika, remember Salem dropped Calzaghe while Bika didn't.