ODe La Hoya Sparred With IVAN CALDERON

[The Gully Gad]

So Oscars a bully in sparring to....

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Margarito wraps up camp with smaller quicker foes quite often as well

I never said that bigger fighters don't spar with smaller ones. I cannot even say that bigger fighters do not fight smaller ones. To say so would fly smack on the face of the more recent "lowlights" of boxing history as well as unfolding events.

Note: You said Margarito "wraps up" camp with smaller...foes. De La Hoya and Calderon reportedly sparred at the start of camp for the Mayweather fight. I dunno if any significance can be attached to that.

[grayfist]

Go find me a fighter that doesn't....Lefty

One could scantly find one, yes. But having problems with a 5-foot 108-lbs. fighter when one is as great as De La Hoya? That seems noteworthy.

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Yeah it isnt out of the norm to spar with smaller guys. It is suspct if you actually have problems with one. Calderon is nothing like Pacquiao though, and I'm sure Oscar was pulling his punches to go a long with the head gear and 16 ounce gloves.

I would only go as far as saying, it is noteworthy. But I won't argue if you choose, "suspect" especially because it is a De La Hoya we are talking about.

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a bit harsh with the last statement but true should spar with varying sizes, shapes and styles.

as long as DLH doesnt fight calderon next I don't think this should even be news

Harsh is something I have learned to expect whenever I jump into a boxing forum--most boxing fora. Thanks just the same.

As for what constitutes news, well, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[crold1]

This is not news; Calderon was SHOWN sparring with Oscar on 24/7...it's just so few knew to look. This was reported long ago as well, if only briefly.

[J Mac]

To begin with, there is nothing that I have ever written in this thread that can be construed as bashing Oscar.

As for boxing background and your command for me to, "stay the f___ out", you may want to check the date that I became member of this site (2004) and stack that up against your few days of membership just to see if you have earned the right to boot me out of here.

I have been talking boxing fsince I registered (albeit, not as frequently as I would have liked to have done) and before that, for decades prior to the birth of BoxingScene and internet sites like it.

My original post had two purposes:

1. To state that Doug Fischer, a highly respected boxing journalist, got confirmation from no less than Calderon that the rumored sparring session truly occured.

2. To report what Doug Fischer said was Calderon's assessment of that sparring session, i.e., De La Hoya has "problems with quick and mobile southpaws".

Nowhere in my posts did it say that bigger fighters do not spar with SMALLER ones. It is, however, remarkable that a Middleweight should choose to spar with the SMALLEST. And, given that De La Hoya has the well-earned reputation of being among the few who are shoo-ins in the Hall of FAme, it is even more remarkable that he should have "problems" with a 108 lbs., 5-foot fighter who is not even in most P4P lists. One would have expected De La Hoya to have a walk in the park.[/

who gives a **** its a ****ing sparing session!!!!! would u say that he should be going out all guns blazing trying to knock him out!

he was obviously picked as a number of sparing partners were, for oscar to practice for a variety of styles, scenarios, fight strategy etc.

why the hell not spar with a small awkward guy, who also happens to be one of the finest defensive fighters in the sport?

[warp1432]

Calderon is 5 feet, Mosley is 5'9, Oscar De La Hoya 5'10.5.

Calderon fights at 108 lbs., Mosley at 146 lbs. (vs. Cotto) to 153 lbs. (vs. Fernando Vargas), De La Hoya last fought at 150 lbs. (or, 151 Lbs, to be exact).

I'm sorry but I cannot see how a sparring session between De La Hoya and Calderon can be the same as one between Mosley and Oscar.

Until Fischer had the rumor confirmed by Calderon himself, it was mostly treated as a claim made by Roach that did not have confirmation. The confirmation came only a couple of days ago, when Fischer spoke to Calderon. Fischer revealed the confirmation only a few hours ago. That cannot be old news. Moreover, Calderon's assessment has not been known before. At best, it was merely rumored, not news. As news, it cannot be old.

No he ment Calderon has sparred with Mosley.

[crold1]

Joe Louis used to spar with Eddie Futch, who was a Bantam-esque fighter.