Why does TheRing have Hopkins as #4 p4p but Calderon not in the top 10?

**alt-mellow** · 09-03-2008, 02:03 PM

LACK OF POWER!! LACK OF KOS.... and.. that ironboy expose all GBP fighters.. ala cazares!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEEE!!

I JUST HOPE. .he moves up in weight.. and manage to grab a title there... then we will sit down and wait for the haters!!!\

OLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

**slicksouthpaw16** · 09-03-2008, 02:03 PM

Calderon is just coming in, Bernard as been on the pound for pound list for years now. He is also far more accomplished than Calderon and he was ranked at two before his loss to Calzaghe if i am remembering right, and it was controversial.

**Sox8055** · 09-03-2008, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Tunney

It's seems unfair to me the the Ring Magazine has old Bernard "One Punch & Hold" Hopkins as #4 on their p4p list, but a slick, quick fighter like Ivan Calderon has been left off.

Hopkins has no world titles, while Calderon is the champion at Light Flyweight.

Hopkins has lost THREE of his past FIVE. Calderon is undefeated in his career, with many successful world title defenses at strawweight and light flyweight!

Is this fair?

Aint fair, but the flyweight division aint that popular I believe. Its the reason I think they ditched him. 1st round mag has calderon as number 10 in the p4p list.

**The Hammer** · 09-03-2008, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16

Calderon is just coming in, Bernard as been on the pound for pound list for years now. He is also far more accomplished than Calderon and he was ranked at two before his loss to Calzaghe if i am remembering right, and it was controversial.

What world titles does Hopkins have?

Answer: none.

**alt-mellow** · 09-03-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Sox8055

Aint fair, but the flyweight division aint that popular I believe. Its the reason I think they ditched him. 1st round mag has calderon as number 10 in the p4p list.

i think.. this post ends the thread...

abosolutly right!!

**slicksouthpaw16** · 09-03-2008, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Tunney

What world titles does Hopkins have?

Answer: none.

What fighter has Calderon beaten that were on the pound for pound list?
Answer :None. Now what fighter did Hopkins beat within the last few years that were on the list? Tarver and Wright and they were ranked high. Calderon is a newbie. With a few more accomplishments, he will be up higher.

**The Hammer** · 09-03-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16

What fighter has Calderon beaten that were on the pound for pound list?
Answer :None. Now what fighter did Hopkins beat within the last few years that were on the list? Tarver and Wright and they were ranked high. Calderon is a newbie. With a few more accomplishments, he will be up higher.

The Ring ratings are supposed to have the CURRENT top 10, or else Pep and Robinson would be there.

Hopkins has lost THREE of his past FIVE fights. For that reason for sure he doesn't belong there.

**VaBoriKua 2.0** · 09-03-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16

What fighter has Calderon beaten that were on the pound for pound list?
Answer :None. Now what fighter did Hopkins beat within the last few years that were on the list? Tarver and Wright and they were ranked high. Calderon is a newbie. With a few more accomplishments, he will be up higher.

yea but also theres no one he beat in the p4p list because they dont pay attention to the fighteres down in those weights so one can be really good and wont be really recognised

**alt-mellow** · 09-03-2008, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16

What fighter has Calderon beaten that were on the pound for pound list.
Answer :None. Now what fighter did Hopkins beat within the last few years that were on the list? Tarver and Wright and they were ranked high. Calderon is a newbie.

wrong

the only thing that hurt calderon.. is HIMSELF!!! ALA WINKY WRIGHT (a few years ago) to risky!!... he will outbox anyone from 105 to 108 and lets see what happen in 112..

calderun would have a greater resumme.. if all the other champions werent too scared to loose their belts....

he's just to good for his own good..!! im not saying he has a better resume than nard.... BUT WHO WAS NARD PRIOR TITO??? just a good champion.. u know.. he needs a marqueee name to propel him to the stardoom!.. and no champion is willing to do that.. saying that calderon is a newbie..

yeah yeah...

IRON BOY is the MOST TALENTED SWEET SCIENCE MASTER in the game right now... just pure skillzz!!!

Why does TheRing have Hopkins as #4 p4p but Calderon not in the top 10?